Jones Beene wrote:

Ed Storms

Apparently, a very unusual structure is required that is not present in ordinary matter. The various theories have been so unsuccessful in guiding research because they are based on the properties of "normal" material.


Everyone can probably agree on that part, and in fact, catalysts usually depend on "structure" at some level of observation.

If however LENR relates to more than 'just' geometric structure, such as the structure of a metal which is hydrided with a very tightly bound hydride which modifies the external geometry - that would be interesting. I wish my electron microscope was not on the fritz today ;-)

I imagine that the unique structure is not only based on the arrangement of atoms, but also on the arrangement of electrons in uncharacteristic ways. I believe the prediction that the structure is a room temperature superconductor is correct. Such a structure would potentially be able to support a coherent electron wave as well as dissipate the released energy within this electron structure.



BTW for those (from Oz ;-) who are sure to correct some of my past posted details (and I appreciate that), and since my original rough calculation for expected di-hydrino density was too hasty, here is something based on what we know about H2 - with the assumption that liquid Hy2 (Hy2 being the di-hydrino) is very similar to liquid H2 except in melting point. I expected the melting point for N=1/2 to be over 1000 K and the others to be solid, but I am certain that there will be a wide divergence of opinion as to those numbers and as to the phase change points.

I take the opposite view, that the melting point would be far lower than H2. In fact, I would predict that Hy would never be a liquid, at least on this world. Formation of a condensed phase requires some attraction between the atoms. Helium has the lowest melting point because the atoms have the least attraction. What would be the basis of attraction between Hy atoms? The electron can not leave the nucleus for even a brief time, thus no covalent attraction is possible. Also, how is Hy pairing possible? This requires electron exchange, which would appear to be impossible in these atoms. I also suggest that any compound formation would require the Hy atom to be bounded in a cage formation where it would be trapped in a structure that is more physical than chemical. I'm open to suggestions as to why I'm full of s---.

Regards,
Ed

The liquid density of H2 is .07 gm/cc. Unfortunately, no solid density is available, as it would demand extreme pressure. Since the Oort cloud will contain few cations, one can expect almost all solar hydrinos deposited there to be paired together molecularly, and in a similar fashion to H2. except with the smaller orbital and higher resultant density.

Based then on extending the H2 model, liquid n=1/3 hydrinos should weigh in at 1.89 gm/cc and n=1/4 would be 4.48 and n=1/7 which Mills claims to have samples of (but in the form of ionic bound chemical hydrides) would be 24 gm/cc - about the density of uranium.

Note however this important detail - that even though the density of shrunken di-hydrino molecules would be every high, the same does not apply to hydrino hydrides (ionic bonding), since the (more shrunken variety) hydrino would probably be actually located most of the time *inside* the orbital cloud (not unusual) and likely around the k-shell of the resultant hydride (unusual), which would be only slightly larger, and perhaps even less dense than before.

Nevertheless, I cannot imagine this material, even in the first shrinkage state, staying gaseous at STP. And I still think many hydrinos should be found in ocean minerals, particularly the alkalis, and that could be the Mills' catalyst connection. Why sodium would not be a catalyst "carrier" (i.e and active Mills catalyst) is not certain. Perhaps many alkalis are in that category because the nucleus is expressing a lesser positive charge (near-field than expected). But what eliminates sodium?

Could it be that hydrino catalysts are only catalytic for one reason - that is because they have a natural affinity for hydrino-hydriding (with the natural population of solar-derived hydrinos) and therefore already contain primordial amounts of hydrinos? IOW they are not the catalyst themselves, they just carry the primordial hydrino, which is the true catalyst.

Given that the n=1/2 would float on water, density-wise (although likely completely soluble) they could be anywhere, if they are indeed of primordial (and ongoing origin) in PPM or PPB ratios - and this is especially true of potassium salts - and in other Mills 'catalysts' but why not sodium... hmm.

Jones



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