Give money to people in prison??? Why? They can't really spend it, unless they are then charged for their accommodation.
Instead it would just build up. Heck, sounds like a saving scheme, just commit a crime to get into a white collar prison and when you get out you have a nice nest egg built up. No, the money needs to be given to people who will pump it straight back into the economy, and people in need will spend it, prisoners aren't in need. On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote: > > David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Of course as soon as money is freely handed out the games will begin. If >> it is distributed per household then a lot of current households will break >> up to increase the allotment. > > > Good point. It should be per capita. > > > >> Is it fair to take away the social security payments of those that paid >> into the system have earned? >> > > Yes, it is. As one who will soon be eligible I say that old people get way > too much money and goodies from our society, such as discounts at the donut > store for crying out loud. We should take stuff from them and give it to > the young. > > > >> Do you give money to people serving time in prison? > > > Yes. > > > >> What happens to the border crossings once this level of security is >> guaranteed to anyone that sneaks in? > > > Only legal permanent residents (green card holders) should get the money. > > > >> What should be done about the very old who need plenty of expensive >> medical care? > > > That is a separate problem as I pointed out earlier in the thread. There > are several classes of people who need lots more money from the government > than this, such as seriously disabled veterans. > > > >> As everyone is aware that can eat up far more money than we are talking >> about. Should the government take over the medical industry? >> > > Yes. It should have done that decades ago. Every other first world country > has national healthcare, and they pay half for one third as much as the > U.S. for superior healthcare. > > > >> How much money will be stolen by criminals that can easily fake >> identities and births, etc. to obtain payments under false pretenses? > > > Very few if it is done correctly. The Social Security system has extremely > low rate of fraud, and the overhead is practically zero. There would be > little fraud because everyone gets it. It is not means tested. There's no > point in stealing something that you going to get anyway. The only likely > fraud would be collecting money for dead people. It is not difficult to > keep track of deaths. > > > There is a great deal of corruption in the medicare and medicaid systems >> where fake illnesses and patient soliciting takes place. Florida is famous >> for this type of theth. >> > > Yes. There are many different kinds of healthcare payments, and the > healthcare industry is very complicated, so it is very hard to keep track > of things. Whereas the only thing to confirm for this program would be: > > "Are you alive? Yes? Okay, here's your monthly check." > > > >> Who knows what the ideal economic system should be, but what we currently >> have has worked relatively well so far. Of course the distribution of >> wealth is not ideal, but there is plenty being generated. >> > > The problem is the distribution of wealth, not the generation. The big > problem is what will come in 20 to 50 years as human labor gradually > becomes worthless. That is what we need to begin addressing now, with > small-scale tests in cities and states. We need to find out what works now > before the problem becomes severe. > > We also need to deal with present day income inequity which is not > causedby robots, but by the economic and tax systems. See: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM > > - Jed > >
