Axil and Jed, etal-- I had also a deference to Ed's conclusion.
I concluded that,If the results of the Pahlavani paper correctly identify the "super heavy" atoms, it seemed the reaction must involve nuclear reactions of some sort In addition the laws that are in effect (apparently affecting nuclei) may also effect the results of reactions like that claimed in the Lugano with its report of changes in nuclear constituents. Of course in that the definition of LENR is vague, the Lugano report may not be considered LENR in Ed's estimation. I assumed that was the basis for his comment. And thus I am not surprised by Ed's conclusion, since during our mutual participation on this blog, Ed consistently said that the phenomena of LENR was not nuclear. I do not know what his comment has been, if any, relative to the Lugano report, and its finding of nuclear changes in the fuel to the ash. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Pahlavani paper With all respectful deference to Ed Storms, I have a contrary opinion on the subject of the transuranic fusion products based on fusion. If any transuranic elements are detected in transmutation, there is no known nuclear reaction outside of a supernova explosion that can produce such elements. That is to say, NO REACTION, whether by hot or cold fusion can produce these super heavy elements from light elements. When Ed Storms analyzed the transmutation byproducts from LeClairs cavitation experiments, Ed himself listed in his ash analysis of LeClair's experiments, super heavy elements. LeClair initialized his reaction with just aluminum and water. Ed stated that LeClair's results were not the result of cold fusion. But by any reaction outside of a supernova, transuranic elements cannot be formed under any circumstances. According to current theory, normal stellar fusion ash production stops with iron and can go no higher in terms of atomic weight. A valid cold fusion theory must explain the formation by transmutation of super heavy elements. On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote: Ed Storms tells me this has nothing to do with LENR. - Jed
