David--

I think the reactor surface in the recent MFMP test was a stainless steel 
cylinder--not at all like an alumina reactor surface used in the successful 
Lugano and recent Russian tests. 

Bob
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Roberson 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 12:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Dog Bone and other coupling ideas for Li-7--Ni reaction--


  Could we be missing an important point by not considering the need for a 
catalyst that breaks apart hydrogen molecules into individual atoms?  If I 
recall, there was an iron compound of some type included within the Rossi fuel 
as well as many other elements that so far are not assumed necessary.

  My bet is that the details of this sort are what is missing.  Apparently just 
having high pressure hydrogen and nickel is not going to work well during a 
short term test.  Of course the aluminum and lithium may be important, but the 
latest MFMP test contained all of these.

  Dave







  -----Original Message-----
  From: Bob Cook <[email protected]>
  To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
  Sent: Sat, Jan 3, 2015 3:24 pm
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Dog Bone and other coupling ideas for Li-7--Ni reaction--


  Our related recent thread looked at conservation or lack of conservation of 
reactants within the dog bone reactor.  It generally assumed some function of 
Li-7 in the reaction.  It may be that Li-H vapor is actually the catalyst that 
aligns the Li-7 with the various Ni isotopes to allow the neutron tunneling of 
the Gullstrom theory to occur.  

  Li-H is probably a polar molecule with potentially non-zero spin in its 
electron structure.  Spin alignment/coupling with Ni isotopes may lead to lower 
energy states and facilitate coupling of the molecule when it encounters a Ni 
atom.  The coherence of the Li-7-H-Ni system results in a lower energy Ni 
isotope, letting go of the Li-6 at low energy as a result.  Li-6 energy could 
help distribute the energy from the reaction site  and not cause to much damage 
to the nano fuel structure.

  One would want to look for a spectrum of low energy Li-6 ions with differing 
energies associated with the different Ni isotope reactions involved to confirm 
such a reaction.

  Bob Cook
     
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Bob Cook 
    To: [email protected] 
    Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 11:21 AM
    Subject: Re: [Vo]:Sealing the Dog Bone


    Eric--

    Also keep in mind the physics student, Carl-Oscar Gullstrom, at the Uppsala 
University and under one of the Lugano authors, has a theory that is similar to 
Robin's idea. Its worth reviewing. 

     
http://www.scribd.com/doc/244393652/Low-radiation-fusion-through-bound-neutron-tunneling

    Bob
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Eric Walker 
      To: [email protected] 
      Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 10:16 AM
      Subject: Re: [Vo]:Sealing the Dog Bone


      On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Bob Cook <[email protected]> wrote:


        It may be that the hydrogen only acts to help distribute the Li-7 to 
the Ni isotopes for the Li-7+Ni reactions Jones suggested back in October and 
Eric has just reviewed.

      Just a small correction.  It was Robin that suggested that what was going 
on was a chain of 7Li(Ni,Ni)6Li neutron-stripping reactions.  This is a 
suggestion that I'm still partial to.  Unless there has been an error in my 
analysis, I'm inclined to think the percentage of lithium reported in the 2mg 
sample from the Lugano assay was unrepresentative of the percentage of lithium 
in the total charge by a factor of 10-20.  Admittedly, this is a heavy strike 
against the proposed involvement of 7Li, all else being equal.


        Most advances in technology are based on a mixture of trial and error 
work and application of half-baked theory.  They go hand in hand.

      Nice summary.


      Eric

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