Hello Stefan

I couldnt agree more with what you say. It is really strange that almost nobody
is looking into the theory of R.Mills. I presented Mills theory a few years ago 
to
a Nobel price winner in the Netherlands. He got angry. 

Somehow Quantum Physics took the wrong way. It was really at the start of the 
first formula 
to describe the atom with the Quantum theory where they went wrong.
They couldnt explain the stability of the atom in a classic way  and Bohr 
postulated
the stability of the atom. Mills found the solution to that problem. He 
proposed that the electron is a shell of current which
is flowing in such a way that there are solutions to the Maxwell equations who 
correspond to the stable 
quantum levels of the electron in the hydrogen atom. What is more he found that 
with his model fractional quantum levels
where also possible. He found these stable fractional quantum levels in his 
experiments, when he followed his theory
that predicted that the groundstate of a hydrogen atom can be destablized by 
using catalyst which can take away n x 27.2 eV
from atom through collision. 

Peter van Noorden

From: Stefan Israelsson Tampe 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 7:20 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [Vo]:QM rant

I would like to see a grants and target institution targeted to answer your 
questions. Also it is good to remember that the standard model was fitted to 
high energy 
particle data, typically advanced theories degenerates at limits to a limited 
set of possible solutions, the standard model QED etc could very well be spot 
on at those
high limits. Also  you don't get to see hydrinos at thise limits so it is 
unclear if it is wise to try what your suggest, jMills does take care to try 
explain quarks, electorns 
etc as well in his book to hint on the nature of these particles. I can't judge 
those efforts, but for sure it is not certain that everything that needs to be 
developed have been done so 
using his ideas as a base. But if he does not have developed something there 
are possible a permutation of ideas to try ranging from simple modifications to 
what
Mills is doing to actually add further terms and additions to maxwells 
equations. Again we need to put manwork and grants into this to get anywhere.

On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 7:05 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:

  I would like to see Mills rewrite the dirac equations for the electron to 
reflect his hydrino theory. This includes the experimental verification of a 
fractionally charged positron. There should be gamma rays produced to account 
for hydrino anti-hydrino annihilation. How does the anti-hydrino interact with 
the electron? What neutrino is produced when a hydrino is emitted in beta 
decay? There are 101 other permutations and combinations of interactions that 
could be experimentally demonstrated involving the hydrino as a fundamental 
elementary particle.






  On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe 
<[email protected]> wrote:

    Orionworks, 

    Yes experiments is all good, i'm more concerned why we don't get any 
replication / debunks and from more independent sources. Is'n there
    enough to verify the evidences? Also what if it's too difficult to create 
hydrinos, and Mills theory would be better suited to explain for example
    cold fusion or high temperature super conductors. Mills theory can with 
great certainty help humanity even if the hydrino effort fails. Why can't I
    hire engineers who know how to model atoms like Mills is doing, are we 
servicing our society as well as we should via our institutions or are the
    folks there cooked into their theory  that is wrong. I think that there is 
huge base of prediction of experiments that Mills does so already 
    experiments have triumphed via the well fit between what we know about 
atoms and what his theory does with almost no assumptions at all. 
    Our current knowledge may very be faulty and a retake on the whole 
fundamentals of nature might be needed, not seeing this and not feeling
    excited about this opportunity, is amazing.

    Have Fun

    On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson 
<[email protected]> wrote:

      Stefan,



      Please correct me if I am mistaken but I assume you are the same "stefan" 
who has posted similar complaints out at the SCP discussion group.



      As has frequently been stated out in the Vort Collective...



      Experimental evidence always trumps theory. 



      I must confess the fact that I personally find Mills' CQM interesting, 
perhaps even tantalizing, see:



      http://personalpen.orionworks.com/blacklight-power.htm



      ...where I wrote a personal report on Dr. Mills' audacious CQM theory. I 
need to stress the fact that this is a NON-SCIENTIIC report & analysis. It is 
my personal take on an upstart brave new theory which seems to have a lot going 
for it. I tried to remain as objective as I could concerning a highly 
controversial theory for which I have insufficient mathematical expertise to 
either confirm or disprove.



      Let me change gears here. To be honest I am getting tired listening to 
yet another argument that Mills' CQM theory is better than QM. Such arguments 
will resolve nothing. The solution is both paradoxically simple while 
admittedly being technologically challenging. BLP needs to cobble together an 
experimental prototype which definitively verifies the fact that the technology 
is capable of self-running while generating lots of excess electricity. I have 
repeatedly suggested BLP demonstrate an EXPERIMENTAL prototype as a precursor 
to creating a commercial prototype. I have done so because I am under the 
opinion that assembling the first commercial system may still be many years off 
into the future. BLP bravely implies that a commercial system is just around 
the corner... but I don't believe it. Nevertheless, I would love to be proven 
wrong on this point. But until I'm proven wrong, I have to continue to rely on 
my own gut instincts based on my own 36 years of personal experience in the 
software industry. In my experience developing brand new software (and 
hardware), particularly a new product  that has never developed before tends to 
take a lot longer than originally anticipated.



      See my personal posts:

      
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SocietyforClassicalPhysics/conversations/messages/4330

      and

      
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SocietyforClassicalPhysics/conversations/messages/4345



      So far, Dr. Mills as repeatedly ignored the primary concerns expressed in 
my above posts. He has said nothing about the possibility of assembling a more 
definitive experimental prototype within BLPs' lab walls. IMO, he seems to be 
evading the question. Mills has instead deflected conversation towards the fact 
that BLP continues to accumulate independent scientific reports that appear to 
verify various aspects of his CQM theory. All the peanut gallery knows at the 
moment is the fact that BLP has contracted with outside engineering firms to 
assemble the first commercial system. The first delivery was supposed to have 
occurred in December of last year. That, of course, never happened. We have yet 
to hear when a new revised delivery date is to be expected. We have, in fact, 
no idea. That is another reason why I tend to think the actual delivery date 
for a real commercial system is likely to be years, not months off into the 
future.



      Let me end by saying I don't fault BLPs' efforts. I have no reason to 
think BLP or Mills are acting in less honorable ways. My primary concern is 
that, IMHO, if BLP wants to be taken more seriously, sooner rather than later, 
then I suggest the company cobble together an experimental prototype that 
self-runs and produces excess electricity ASAP. The prototype does not have to 
run long. Just long enough to prove their point. I say this because I am under 
the impression that the anticipated commercial system is probably going to take 
a lot longer than BLP had originally anticipated... perhaps as long as several 
more years. I say this because I suspect that if BLP attempted to cobble 
together nothing more deceptively simple as just an EXPERIMENTAL prototype (a 
prototype not meant for commercial applications) such attempts will also likely 
to turn out to be an equally formidable challenge. In fact I suspect the 
challenge is precisely why Mills has not directly replied to my suggestion.



      I would nevertheless be thrilled to be proven wrong on these last points. 
...and perhaps Mills doesn't care to be taken more seriously sooner rather than 
later. Focus on developing the commercial system, and be damned with assembling 
another intermediate experimental demo. If BLP's financial backers remain in 
the loop... if they remain satisfied with the progress they are seeing, running 
a more stealthy operation is a perfectly legitimate strategy. Granted it's a 
bummer for the rest of us who reside in the peanut gallery, but it's not my 
call. ;-)



      Regards,

      Steven Vincent Johnson

      svjart.orionworks.com

      zazzle.com/orionworks





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