You have the right idea... But not much biomass around them, eh? To make the logistics cost effective, proximity to population concentrations is essential.
-john -----Original Message----- From: Frederick Sparber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 6:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: DON'T PANIC! W#ould you settle for some old H bomb cavities blown underground in Nevada, John? :-) Fred > [Original Message] > From: John Steck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 12/14/2005 3:44:01 PM > Subject: RE: DON'T PANIC! > > Good use of those abandoned properties... Plus land cost would be > ideal. But I am not picturing a 'green' landfill. I am thinking more > deep missile > silo type structures to idealize prime conditions and collection. > Apply steam to accelerate the process? Pair it up with geothermal to > avoid the energy cost? Worlds largest methanol still? > > Like it even more now. -john > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Frederick Sparber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:44 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: DON'T PANIC! > > > TVA area and other strip-mine sites, John? > The repositories could be engineered for plant nutrient > recovery also. > > Fred > > > > [Original Message] > > From: John Steck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Date: 12/14/2005 1:58:43 PM > > Subject: RE: DON'T PANIC! > > > > With the price of natural gas not looking to go down any time soon, > > might not be a bad business plan to start a company with. Land, > > collection, and fermenting time would be your biggest expenses.... But > > once you got past > the > > initial startup delay, keeping it producing would only be a > > caretaker > > activity. > > > > I like it. -john > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Frederick Sparber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:33 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: DON'T PANIC! > > > > > > A short term effort that I practice, John, is to throw every bit of > > biodegradeable material I can into the trash bin headed to landfill. > > Do that with all of the agro-produced waste (that normally oxidizes > > aerobically) in area repositories and there will be significant > > amounts of "Natural Gas" CH4 available in a couple of decades. > > > > Fred > > > > > [Original Message] > > > From: John Steck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Date: 12/14/2005 9:55:10 AM > > > Subject: RE: DON'T PANIC! > > > > > > There are theories that petroleum is a by-product of chemical > > > reactions taking place sub-surface and percolating up through the > > > bedrock. It's a theory postulated to explain why tapped out oil > > > fields have been > > discovered > > > to be filling back up. > > > > > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0387985468/026-0122312-68 > > > 51 > > > 65 > > > 5 > > > > > > If true, peak oil will have to be redefined as the rate of > > > consumption > > > vs. rate of replenishment. Might not help this civilization, but a > > > few > > hundred > > > thousand years should be enough to refill the tanks for the next > > > one to emerge after the next ice age / flood / asteroid cleansing. > > > Hopefully > > they > > > will be prudent enough not to smelt down all the circuit boards in > > > the > > trash > > > heaps for their precious metal content before they are smart > > > enough > > > to > > > decode our legacy from them. > > > > > > Wow. Sorry about that. Just bummed myself out.... My cynicism > > > valve > > seems > > > to be stuck in the open position this morning. > > > > > > -john > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:05 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: DON'T PANIC! > > > > > > > > > http://www.sacbee.com/content/opinion/story/13949592p-14784245c.ht > > > ml > > > > > > Saudi "proven" reserves are shown at 262.7 billion barrels. In > > > 1989, > > > Saudi "proven" reserves were reported at 260 billion barrels. No > > > significant fields have been discovered since then. How does one > > > explain the current reserve? Kuwait's Burgan Field (the > > > second-largest on Earth) has peaked and is in decline. > > > > > > <more> > > > > > > Keep your towel handy. > > > ___________________________________________________ > > > Try the New Netscape Mail Today! > > > Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List > > > http://mail.netscape.com > > > > > > > > > > >
