If electrons were the only particle generated the system would assume a 
negative charge that continues to increase over time.  Most reactions with 
electrically neutral particles generate an equal number of positive charged 
particles as negative ones.

The fact that there are no 511 keV gammas suggests to me that no positrons are 
being generated during the process.  These issues makes the direct conversion 
of mesons(unless they are negative initially) into only electrons not likely in 
this case.  Is there reason to believe that negatively charged mesons originate 
during the LENR reaction?

It appears to me that we need to uncover some technique that allows spin energy 
to be directly converted into kinetic energy of atoms without an  associated 
significant amount of radiation.   Of course the other option discussed where 
alphas are generated would allow an effecient transfer of energy to take place 
without the very high velocity lighter particles.

Does anyone know of proof that spin is conserved throughout the system in a 
manner that is similar to the conservation of angular momentum?  If this is 
true then the spin would always be originated as both a positive and a negative 
pair during a reaction.   One participating particle would acquire positive 
spin while another negative so the net spin is zero.  The way that this spin 
become thermalized remains an interesting question.  Bob, do you have a theory 
about how this occurs?  Or, is my thinking wrong about the conservation of spin?

Just my two cents worth.

Dave

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Axil Axil <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Mar 22, 2015 12:34 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Probability Enhancement via SPP


 
A lot of energy could be expended in the creation of electrons as a final 
product of meson decay. How can we tell if the LENR reaction converts spin into 
electrons. 
 
  
  
On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 12:20 PM, Jones Beene    <[email protected]> wrote:   
   
Bob,    
 Spin could be heavily involved, as would be expected with SPP - but there is   
 
 no valid physical model for complete conversion of kilowatts of power into    
 only spin, as you seem to suggest. If there was, then that avenue is    
 certainly more elegant. Since we have no guidance from Physics for complete    
 conversion to spin - I am trying to fit this phenomenon into a framework    
 where there is an accepted model (even if not widely known).    
 At the same time, good evidence is turning up that there is a large QM    
 anomaly for lithium-6 leading to fusion with the ash consisting solely of    
 helium. These are fast particles, even if less energetic than expected in    
 hot fusion, and that amount of kinetic energy cannot easily show up as only    
 spin.    
     http://xxx.tau.ac.il/pdf/1503.05266.pdf    
 The main problem being one of a complete absence of bremsstrahlung... (there   
 
 are no gammas from the start in the reaction, so we do not have to deal with   
 
 that problem). This is a bit different from Hagelstein's hypothesis, where    
 he is struggling to downshift gammas to phonon vibrations - where the    
 coupling spans 9 orders of magnitude with complete certainty and no leakage.   
 
 With a coherent S-matrix of superradiant coherent IR photons, the problem is   
 
 reduced to 4 orders of magnitude, where physical evidence does exist for the   
 
 coupling premise (albeit not complete).    
 From: Bob Cook    
     Jones--
 
 There is no bremsstrahlung because there are no particles emitted with high
 kinetic energy--only quantum spin energy is involved.
 
 Bob
 ----- Original Message -----
 
     Wiki has a superficial entry for quantum probability
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_probability
 and a more complete entry for S-Matrix
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-matrix
 The crux of this post is to suggest that the alumina tube reactor operates
 via an enhanced "probability field" favoring a rare nuclear reaction, and
 that the key to this probability enhancement is photonic .... via SPP -    
     surface plasmon polaritons.
 Specifically, the premise is that in an intense flux of IR photons, which is
 initiated by incandesce, the low probability of a few nuclear reactions,
 especially those involving Li-6, can be enhanced and at the same time excess
 energy which is derived can be absorbed by the photonic flux, creating a
 positive feedback parameter. Because the underlying reaction is gamma free,
 and the sole component of ash is alpha particles, the missing mechanism (for
 now) is the coupling of the 3 alpha emission to the photonic flux (Li6 + Li6
 > 3He).
 From there on, the details of how the expected bremsstrahlung can be
 completely downshifted  require "illumination"... but the missing mechanism    
     
     
may have been hidden in plain view, all along. This premise is easily      
 falsifiable.      
 More later,      
 Jones      
      
    
   
  
  
 
 

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