I do not understand why you suggest the local magnetic fields induced by the
iron would not change the local field that nucleons experience.
Thanks Bob. It does. The effect is electromagnetic and it effects the whole
nucleus.
The other forces also have magnetic fields associated with them. These fields
have the structure of the electromagnetic field however they are not of
electromagnetic origin. The spin orbit nuclear magnetic field
effects the nucleons in the nucleus separately. It tends to make even numbered
nucleons more stable.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Mon, Apr 6, 2015 6:45 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Photon "storage" and quasi-coherence in alumina
Frank-
I listened to an interview you gave, I believe in 2012. I understand better
where you are coming from.
I agree that the use of iron can increase the local magnetic fields. I do
not understand why you suggest the local magnetic fields induced by the iron
would not change the local field that nucleons experience. I would say they
would. The local magnetic field in a NMR machine does affect the nucleon
experienced field, and it establishes additional nuclear spin energy states to
which nucleons can be excited by RF radiation. As the magnetic field is shut
off the excited states decay back to ground. The decay radiation is what is
monitored in an MRI medical scanner, I believe.
Nevertheless, in your concept what is the source of energy providing the
excess heat in LENR?
For example, I have always considered it is a loss of mass of the reactants
that was converted to the phonic lattice energy. The question has been: What
is the mechanism for this loss of mass. I have concluded it is spin energy of
virtual excited particles, for example, 2 D particles fusing to form a virtual
He* particle with high nuclear orbital spin. The He* decays to He ground
state and distribution of the spin energy and its angular momentum to the many
electrons of the coherent Pd system in small quanta of energy and angular
momentum.
Bob
---- Original Message -----
From: Frank Znidarsic
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Photon "storage" and quasi-coherence in alumina
To Jones: I presented and published The Constants of the Motion Theory in
2000 at the a meeting of the ANS. That was long before the dogbone and the
other papers and comments.
http://www.osti.gov/scitech/biblio/787504
Bob, Yes my model is magnetic. The magnetic force is not conserved. More
mutual magnetic flux can come with the addiction of iron. The magnetic field
goes away when the current is turned off.
My theory, however, is not electromagnetic. It is spin orbit magnetic (the
magnetic component of the strong nuclear force) and gravitomagnetic (the
magnetic component of gravity). These are not increased by the addition of
soft iron. A vibration Bose condensate is required. The frequency of
vibration and the domain length equals 1.094,000 meters per second.
As the range of the nuclear magnetic force exceeds the range of the coulombic
force nuclear reactions bypass the coulombic potential well. No radiation is
emitted under this condition.
I derived the quantum condition as a classical effect of this vibration.
http://benthamopen.com/FULLTEXT/CHEM-1-21
Frank Znidarsic
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Sun, Apr 5, 2015 10:44 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Photon "storage" and quasi-coherence in alumina
Frank
If the forces that connect the part of your model for resonance are magnetic,
even in part, a magnetic field will change the resonant frequencies that exist
IMHO. Does your analysis consider magnetic forces?
Bob Cook
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From: Frank Znidarsic
Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2015 1:51 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Good analysis Jones.
What might the natural frequency be? Metallic photons resonate at about 10 exp
12 hertz (tera hertz). A metal highly loaded with hydrogen resonates a bit
higher at about 2X10 exp 13 hertz. 2X10 exp 13 hertz times 50x10 exp -9 (50
nano meters) equals about million meters per second. That speed, according to
my analysis, equals the velocity of sound in the nucleus.
Finally; The constants of the motion converge in a Bose condensate stimulated
at that dimensional frequency (velocity).
Frasnk Z
-----Original Message-----
From: Jones Beene < jone...@pacbell.net>
To: vortex-l < vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Sat, Apr 4, 2015 11:10 am
Subject: [Vo]:Photon "storage" and quasi-coherence in alumina
A valid question for better
understanding the thermodynamics of the
dogbone type of reactor is “why alumina”?
Apparently Parkhomov does not use pure alumina,
and his reactor show s
the same kind of optical translucence
as do others –
which is an intense glow, especially at
the threshold temperature, which appears to be 1050-1100 C .
This temp.
corresponds to a wavelength which has
been associated with the surface
plasmon phenomenon, so it is no accident that it could
also be a threshold value in LENR
.
Perhaps alumina is
also used simply because a
ceramic is needed to limit thermal transfer
, but there could be a reason related to
“ photon ic
storage. ” There are a
number of choices for tubes – and the
proper optical dynamics of the tube could
make a profound difference in the outcome
due to the fact that photons of light are necessary to produce the surface
plasmon phenomenon . These photons need a
level of coherence, but possibly less than
full laser -like coherence.
This is where “super-radiance” comes into play.
The re is a
new and growing field of technology
called “slow photons” or
photon storage (not to be confused with optical storage).
Essentially some materials – often
based on alumina ( since it is
translucent for some frequencies of IR )
will store photons for a significant period
of delay . The material
is essentially crammed full of photons,
which come from incandescence of the
resistance wir e and are slowed and stored
.
These photons go into the
tube and bounce around for long periods of
time , without loss, before emerging
as the glow we see . As the
photons bounce aroun d
internally, the y begin to cohere in
wavelength – in a similar way that a gas
laser operates – which is based on rays of
light bouncing between mirrors.
The dogbone reactor at about 1100C
can be described as an unfocused
quasi- laser.
Wiki has a decent reference
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_light
BTW – surrounding the dogbone
reactor with a steel
tube, which has been polished on the
interior surface to a mirror finish – would
likely make the device much more efficient
… if …
the operative mechanism for gain is SPP
.
Jones
