We don't know enough to answer the question because we don't know enough about the origin of the force. Even if it is relativistic as Shawyer claims and the spatial area occupied by the device modifies the encompassed inertial frames that breach the isotropy there remains a strong likelihood that an equal and opposite frame is created and the device is only able to directionalize gravity to produce thrust..NOT able to accumulate a buoyancy. IMHO his use of the term thrust is probably correct and that we won't get a bubble from microwaves in a shaped cavity. Fran
-----Original Message----- From: Bob Cook [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 9:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit Hovering does not violate Newton's laws IMHO. Energy and momentum are conserved. Bob Cook ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit In reply to Frank Znidarsic's message of Mon, 11 May 2015 18:58:16 -0400: Hi Frank, [snip] >The video states that m drive obeys Newtow's laws. It has no reaction >mass. It does not obey Newton's laws. That comment was an understatement >bordering on misinformation. > > >Frank Z Which of Newton's laws does it violate? Does a car going down the road doesn't have reaction mass? Does it violate Newton's laws? Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

