Yes there is an electromagnetic moment.  It is caused by the change in 
electromagnetic field (dq/dt).
There is a strong nuclear, magnetic moment.  It is caused by a change in the 
strong force (ds/dt).
This strong nuclear magnetic force is called the Spin Orbit Force.



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From: Bob Cook <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Jul 8, 2015 11:00 am
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Frank--   
    
    
    
What do you mean by the comment that spin orbit  magnetic field ”is not of 
electromagnetic origin?”    
    
    
    
I think that the spin orbit field is an intrinsic property of a coherent QM 
system much like spin and magnetic moments are intrinsic properties of 
particles and nuclei.     
    
    
    
Bob   
    
     
      
      
      
       
       From:        Frank Znidarsic       
       
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How does the magnetic field produce heat?      
       
       
      
       
The spin orbit magnetic field (not of electromagnetic origin) can, when 
modified, mediate nuclear reactions at a greater range than the Coulombic 
force.      
       
       
      
       
Frank Z      
     



      
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From: Axil Axil <[email protected]>      
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>      
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 6:02 pm      
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How does the magnetic field produce heat?        
        
         
         
         
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Frank Znidarsic          <[email protected]> 
wrote:          
          
          It in the amplitude of the thermal vibrations,.
             
              
LENR must involve a positive feedback loop in order to achive over unity. If 
magnetic fields are involved, the positive feed back must be magnetic in 
nature. Nuclear binding energy is converted to magnetic energy in a gainful 
positive feedback loop. Please explain how you beleive this might work.         
     
            



            
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To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
            Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 5:39 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:a special issue of EGO OUT

             
              
               
                
LENR must involve a positive feedback loop in order to achive over unity. If 
magnetic fields are involved, the positive feed back must be magnetic in 
nature. Nuclear binding energy is converted to magnetic energy in a gainful 
positive feedback loop. Please explain how you beleive this might work.         
       
                
                 
                 
                 
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Frank Znidarsic                  
<[email protected]> wrote:                  
                  
                  Even if we accept the theoretical possibility that collective 
nuclear reactions can take place (by an totally unknown physical mechanism) it 
is absolutely necessary that the conservation laws should be respected- 
conservation of energy, barions, leptons, and of electric charge. It was worked 
out a computerized model that has immediately shown that there is no solution 
for the nuclear processes based on weak nuclear interactions as beta decay and 
K-capture, that is transition from a neutron to a proton and conversely because 
such combinations cannot satisfy the above shown requirements. 

                    
                     
                      
                       
Good, lets also dump the funkey hydrinos, either vortexes, atomic cracks, and 
Casimer cavities.                       
                       
There is another force at work in the nucleus.  Its the magnetic component of 
the strong nuclear                        
                       
                       force.  It called the spin orbit force.  It is NOT of 
electromagnetic origin. So lets not go there--again.   It like the (electrical) 
magnetic  component is not conserved.  It is boundless under the right 
conditions.                       
                       
                       
                      
                       
                       Soft iron increases the magnetic field by the factor of 
10,000.  I believe the vibrating Bose condensate does the                       
                       
                       same for for the spin orbit force.  The freq of 
vibration depends of size.  It is 1,094,000 hetrz-meters.                       
                       
                       
                      
                       
                       
                       
                       
                      
                       
                       thanks Peter.                       
                                               
                         
                        
                         
                         Frank Znidarsic                         
                     
                    
                   
                 
                
                 
                 
               
              
             
            
           
         
        
         
         
       
      
     
   
  
 
 

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