Thank you steven. I do need some support and perhaps I should take some
extra time to  check the message.

I tried to be sarcastic. I  agree with what you say/
I disagree with that this is because we have too few laws.
On the contrary - because the many laws and the many add ons to cover
specific situation we are in such an impossible situation.
We cannot read the laws - they are written in a way that they are hard to
understand. Contrary to me trying to clarify my my poor language skills -
theer is nobody to ask for clarification.
In addition when a law is abused (they all are) then the lawmakers design a
new law that cover this loop hole. Unfortunately this cover often hit other
situation it was not intended to hit.
Now we have a bunch of lawyers and they like it because they can argue
about what it meant and what it says verbatim and the money flies in to
their coffer.
The more people we we hire and the more hierarchy we implement - the more
laws we have to have. I am sure all of us break the law every day.
Sometimes fully aware and sometimes with no clue that we broke the law.
Laws does not solve any problems. The more detailed they are the harder to
implement / enforce.
I am not making any statements following any official party. The political
parties I know about are as useless all of them. Donald Trump and Hilary
Clinton do I need to say more.

Best Regards ,
Lennart Thornros

www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com
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+1 916 436 1899
202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648

“Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment
to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Lennart,
>
>
>
> I realize English is not your native language. I try my best to afford you
> generous leeway when I can't parse your English grammar. After all, I don't
> know your native language. That said, I must confess that in this
> circumstance I don't quite understand what the point was that you were
> trying to make.
>
>
>
> Here's my point. If the high school boy who brought in his science project
> had not looked like a Muslim, this regrettable chain of unfortunate events
> never would have become news. Authority based on suspicion and fear took
> over and never asked for technical help. For crying out loud, the student
> brought his home made digital clock to school to show his classmates and
> teachers what he had built with his own brain and hands. As far as we can
> tell he never behaved in a secretive way when he brought his home project
> to school. Would a terrorist have revealed to his teacher what he had
> built? [Glad you liked it, sir. Excuse me now while I go take it somewhere
> secretive where I can arm it.] I would have hoped that those in authority
> would have recognized the simple behavior of bringing a project to school
> to impress a teacher. Unfortunately, authority overwhelmed with prejudice
> took over. Technical help never had a chance to weigh in. What a friggin
> fiasco.
>
>
>
> I'm glad he gets to show his science project off at the White House. You
> can bet Ahmed's  visit will make news.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Steven Vincent Johnson
>
> OrionWorks.com
>
> zazzle.com/orionworks
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Lennart Thornros [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2015 8:21 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:The Ahmed Mohamed case and distrust of experts
>
>
>
> Jed,
>
> Read what you just wrote,
>
> This is those authorities, you think we should respect, in action.
>
> Where I grow up there was no laws that we should be inoculated.
>
> I think you are confusing technical expertise and authorities.
>
> There is no problem with technical expertise. However, when you bring in
> the principal it all becomes law and order and there is always a law
> nowadays. . . .
>
> I am glad we have the same opinion. Now just get the names right.
>
>
> Best Regards ,
> Lennart Thornros
>
>
>
> www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com
>
> [email protected]
> +1 916 436 1899
>
> 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648
>
>
>
> “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a
> commitment to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> The Ahmed Mohamed case has swept the Internet. I hope the kid gets a
> normal life back. Anyway, I would like to point out something about this
> that clicked in my mind regarding cold fusion.
>
> This is a technical high school, specializing in engineering. The first
> teacher he showed it to saw it was a clock. I expect there are dozens of
> other teachers there who would instantly recognize it is a clock. So, when
> suspicion arose, and the kid and his clock were sent the principal's
> office, the principal should have called in one of the engineering teachers
> and asked "what is this?" The misunderstanding would have been cleared up
> instantly. Instead, the principal called the police. As you see from the
> news accounts the police knew nothing about electronics or bombs.
>
>
>
> Decades ago, when a technical questions arose, technical experts were
> called in, and the public accepted their judgement. There were laws that
> all children have to be inoculated against infectious disease. No one
> questioned these laws. An "anti-vaxer" movement in the 1950s, when the
> polio vaccine had just been developed, would have been unthinkable. All
> adults back then understood how dangerous polio is.
>
>
>
> Perhaps respect for authority and for expertise was too high back then.
> There were cases of that. But I think the pendulum has swung too far the
> other way. The tragedy of cold fusion is not that experts were wrong, but
> rather that experts were ignored. Decision makers ignored the scientific
> literature and did not listen to experts who had actually performed
> experiments. They turned instead to science journalists, then to ordinary
> journalists, to scientists who had no knowledge of the subject and who had
> read nothing, and finally, to anonymous people at Wikipedia who name
> themselves after comic book characters.
>
>
>
> - - - - - - - - - - -
>
>
> The story includes one of the most stupid quotes from a police department
> spokesperson I have ever read:
>
> “We have no information that he claimed it was a bomb,” McLellan said. “He
> kept maintaining it was a clock, but there was no broader explanation.”
>
>
>
> Asked what broader explanation the boy could have given, the spokesman
> explained:
>
>
>
> “It could reasonably be mistaken as a device if left in a bathroom or
> under a car. The concern was, what was this thing built for? Do we take him
> into custody?”
>
>
> Broad?!? Call it broad or narrow, *the gadget was a clock*, and that was
> the one and only explanation, for crying out loud.
>
>
>
> - Jed
>
>
>
>
>

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