On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Blaze Spinnaker <[email protected]>
wrote:

The idea that cold fusion doesn't involve hydrogen infused metal is just
> end-of-times for these people.
>

It's really hard to sort out what is known from what is conjecture.  There
are some careful experimentalists who have made some very measured
statements and drawn some very measured conclusions.  And then there are
some popularizers who take those statements and overlay all kinds of
additional details that do not have a sure foundation, applying what they
believe to be obvious logic, which, when analyzed more closely, is not
obvious.

   - Does CF involve deuterium?  In some cases it appears to.
   - Does CF involve light hydrogen?  There's some evidence that it might
   in some cases.
   - Does CF involve lithium?  In some cases it might.
   - Does CF involve palladium?  Somehow, sometimes.
   - Does CF involve nickel?  Maybe, sometimes.
   - Is helium-4 correlated with excess heat?  Yes, in a subset of CF
   experiments with very specific systems.
   - Is helium-4 always correlated with excess heat in CF?  Hard to say.
   - Is the amount of excess heat indicative of the 23 MeV resulting from
   d+d -> 4He?  There was an experiment by a careful researcher that suggested
   that it was in that particular case.
   - Is the amount of excess heat always indicative of the 23 MeV resulting
   from d+d -> 4He?  Hard to say.

People want to go well beyond measured statements of this kind.  Some are
willing to manufacture consensus in the process.  It's a little hard to
watch from the sidelines as this kind of thing is done.

Eric

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