Lennart Thornros <[email protected]> wrote:

Jed with your numbers, which I am sure you have right . . .
>

No necessarily! You should not trust my arithmetic. I sometimes drop 1 or 2
orders of magnitude.


. . .  it seems to me that nuclear power is great for H production when we
> implemented LENR on a local level.
>

Hydrogen production?! Why would we need that? All of the energy in the
world can be supplied with the hydrogen from 60,000 tons of water a year.
That's 6 tons per hour. That is actually 10 times more than we need, but I
assume most would not actually be fused. You could make that in a single
factory machine like this:

http://www.hydrogenics.com/docs/default-source/default-document-library/poer-to-gas-mw-class-series.pdf?sfvrsn=0

If we need deuterium the facility would be larger but still a tiny fraction
of a 1 GW fission reactor. In any case, these machine run on electricity,
and the electricity from cold fusion will far cheaper than from fission,
wind or any other source.

In actual applications I would expect each factory making cold fusion
engines or power supplies to generate their own purified hydrogen, or to
bring in a tank of hydrogen every week or so. The hydrogen source in an
automobile plant would be single cabinet. I guess they will need ~10 g of
hydrogen gas per automobile (a ten-year supply of fuel). Maybe 12 kg per
day in a large factory. These machines produce 10 to 15 nm^3 of hydrogen
per hour (0.9 kg to 1.3 kg):

http://www.hydrogenics.com/docs/default-source/pdf/211-industrial-brochure-english.pdf?sfvrsn=0

Power consumption is "4.9 kWh/Nm3 at full load" (18 MJ per 90 g of H). 90 g
of hydrogen is enough to produce 9e14 MJ, if I have done my arithmetic
right. In other words, the overhead is small; 1 MJ of electricity produces
enough hydrogen to generate 5e13 MJ of heat.

http://physics.ucsd.edu/do-the-math/2012/01/nuclear-fusion/

- Jed

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