Bob, I think here again is where the Jan Naudt’s paper on relativistic hydrogen applies to the hydrinos and Rydberg atoms the same. You asked “? How do you ascribe mass density to something only one atomic layer thick? “ IMHO the hydrogen atom morphs with changes in ether density provided by the nano geometry environment in exactly the same way a hydrogen atom ejected from the sun at high fractions of C appears to change from our perspective but without the needed velocity, like the near C hydrogen ejected from the corona you have relativistic change in mass but it might actually be a decrease in mass since containment lowers vacuum density below the value for a stationary open space observer. The point being gravitational square law changes in vacuum density are trumped by London/Casimir forces at nano scale and you can have ratios of vacuum density between Casimir cavities and earth bound paradox twin/observer on the same order as the ratio between earth bound paradox twin/observer and the near C twin. I believe Lorentzian contraction should appear the same from either perspective but the mass change in this case would seem to mean the mass of the quantum geometry that is depleting the ether density should increase from the perspective of the modified hydrogen traveling thru the depleted region. From our oerspective [like the near C twin] we see the modified hydrogen as Lorentzian contracted, time dilated such that radioactive forms of hydrogen appear to decay faster but from local observation actually “put in the normal time” spending thousands of years in these Casimir cavities while only a few seconds pass for us sitting in the lab outside the reactor. Everytime I go out on this limb I get less afraid as I see other pieces of the puzzle slowly embracing the temporal aspects of this anomaly. Fran
From: Bob Higgins [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]: How many atoms to make condensed matter? Jones, your description below about metallic hydrogen stimulates me to wonder about atoms, molecules, particles, and condensed matter. Obviously a single atom of H is not metallic hydrogen. A single molecule of hydrogen is more "dense" than the H/D(1) species of Rydberg matter. I don't think anyone would categorize an ordinary H2 molecule as metallic or condensed matter. The X(1) species of Rydberg matter is shown to exist in particular for H/D and the alkali metals having commonly 7 or more atoms. Are these Rydberg clusters better described as large molecules? A small particle of metal? Generalized condensed matter? How do you ascribe mass density to something only one atomic layer thick? It is interesting to consider. The Rydberg matter "snowflakes" called X(1), where X is usually an alkali metal, are called Rydberg because the electron orbitals are highly excited Rydberg states in high order flattened (nearly planar) orbitals. The nuclear separation of H(1) is bigger than that for the H2 molecule. Existence for X(1) Rydberg matter particles (clusters, molecules) is well reproduced, modeled, measured, and is utilized by many based on the well described characteristics of the snowflakes obtained, in a large part, from rotational spectroscopy. The existence of Holmlid's ultra-dense form is not reproduced, and what form it might take is completely speculative. The evidence for it appears to be solely from the accelerated species found in supposed Coulomb Explosion (CE). Why is this species not be examined by conventional rotational spectroscopy, as has been used to verify the existence of the X(1) Rydberg matter? I would think that the comprising atoms could NOT be in a DDL state, because if they were, they would not be susceptible to photonic ionization (DDL states are supposed to have too little angular momentum to form a photon), which Holmlid claims causes CE and is his basis for the existence of the D(-1) / D(0) state of matter in the first place. Since the D(-1)=D(0) matter is supposedly susceptible to photo-ionization and CE, it seems like it should also be detectable in a rotational spectrum. On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:25 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Fran - The only way Holmlid’s claims make sense is that the dense hydrogen he describes is a more stable phase of hydrogen than metallic hydrogen. This means it is a phase or isomer which does not require extreme containment. For instance, we know that alloys with alkali metals will lower the pressure requirements for metallic hydrogen by 400%. In the case of the Holmlid phase, which I still call DDL until it is shown to be different, the species could be stable without any pressure or with slight containment.
