The is something special about the layered structure of graphite. I would
follow that lead.

On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 2:38 AM, Alain Sepeda <alain.sep...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> Lou Pagnuco on LENR-Forum found an arxiv paper.
>
> do you think it have connection ?
>
> I see also connections with Hydroton's theory...
>
> http://arxiv.org/pdf/1512.08504v1.pdf
> "X-ray laser pulses from solids"
> ABSTRACT: In experiments on irradiation of metal surfaces by ions of keV
> energy, X-ray laser radiation  was observed despite population inversion
> was unexpected. The radiation continued after the bombarding by ions was
> switched off. In this paper unusual properties of that X-ray radiation are
> analyzed. Anomalous states are formed inside the metal. These states are
> associated with narrow potential well created by the local reduction of
> zero point electromagnetic energy. This reminds the van der Waals potential
> well. States in the well are long-living which results in population
> inversion and the subsequent laser generation observed.
>
> The author speculates that LENR may be due to up-conversion of low energy
> quanta into
> nuclear excitations.
>
> Peter Hagelstein discusses the Karabut results in --
> "Directional X-ray and gamma emission in experiments in condensed matter
> nuclear science"
>
> http://brillouinenergy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Directional-X-ray-and-gamma-emission-in-experiments-in-condensed-matter-nuclear-science.pdf
>
>
> from:
>
> http://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Thread/2427-Re-examing-Karabut-s-anomalous-collimated-X-rays/
>
> 2015-12-29 0:37 GMT+01:00 Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>> Your experience in the nuclear energy sector is no doubt relevant here.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> My experience is that any fast charged particles creates x-rays which
>>> would be observed and correlated with the ejection of electrons from the
>>> inner electron shells of atoms.
>>
>>
>> X-rays have been observed on many occasions and have been correlated with
>> excess heat. In addition, characteristic x-rays that go back to the
>> ionization of inner shell electrons are of an energy that is readily
>> attenuated by quartz, water and stainless steel, which means you have to
>> take special steps to measure them. (Also, the x-rays are often collimated
>> for some reason.)
>>
>> Also, if there are no fast neutrons, it is unlikely that one would expect
>>> to observe fast charged particles nor gammas, since they would likely be
>>> born from a nuclear transmutation.
>>
>>
>> This is an expectation that goes back to a certain understanding of
>> what's going on (i.e., it is partly a theoretical understanding). That begs
>> the question -- what if something different is going in in this case?
>>
>> In addition, if the LENR reactions take place in a coherent system of
>>> significant size,  the probability of the production of  high kinetic
>>> energy particles may be low compared to the distribution of energy in many
>>> small amounts and/or directly as phonic energy of a lattice being part of a
>>> coherent system.
>>
>>
>> This is another theoretical expectation. Some people, such as Peter
>> Hagelstein and Mitchell Swartz, like explanations involving a coherent
>> system of some kind.  I personally find such approaches difficult to grasp
>> in light of basic thermodynamical considerations.
>>
>
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