H LV <[email protected]> wrote:

> In the case of P & F has the energy spent loading the Pd before the
> excess heat event
> been included in calculations of gain?


No. There is a small energy deficit for a few hours when loading begins and
most of the Pd-D hydride forms. You can include that if you like although
in most cases it is a tiny fraction of the anomalous heat. After Pd-D 0.8
forms, output energy balances input very closely so it would make no sense
to include the continued energy input in the balance. In most published
examples the energy balance applies after excess heat begins. In a few
cases I recall people showing the balance for the whole run. I think that
is silly. You might as well include the energy used to fabricate the
glassware and to mine the iron ore to make the stainless steel parts.

- Jed

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