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From: "Stephen A. Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: EarthTech's (Scott Little's) magic touch
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I have seen no evidence
that Eartth Tech has these instruments, which Naudin has used.
Does Mizuno's lab have such instruments?
I believe he does, based on comments by Jed, who can communicated directly
with him in Japanese.
This is something I've wondered about, a little, with regard to Ohmori as
well -- if Ohmori's doing work which requires measurement of very noisy
input power levels, and, as Jed says, he's using instruments which date
from the early 20th century, how can he know how much power is going into
the cells?
I don't know. I haven't followed his work closely. I know that Jed thinks
both Mizun and Ohmori are very careful and competent experimentalists. The
vatch with electrical measurement is tha the common AC meters are calibrated
with assumed sine waves. There are digital "RMS" meters, but these work only
if the waveform is not too distorted and contains mostly distorted power
frequency waveforms. A few instruments have wideband circuits that can
perform the RMS operation in real time. There are a few digital
oscilloscopes that will do a snapshot of E and I waveforms and then do the
full RMS calculation. There is a TI portable oscilloscope which does this.
If you use analog meters and properly calibrate them, they can be used, but
you have to know very well what you are doing.
In Little's third series of "Mizuno runs", trials four and five, in which
he was trying to duplicate Mizuno's results, he apparently used the same
calorimetry and general cell design as Mizuno. His results showed a
pretty clean zero in run 4 (168,000 joules out, 167,000 joules in,
difference < 1%), and a complete failure to boil in run 5 (consistent with
input power being less than output power), which suggests that, despite
the noisy nature of the input current and voltage, his _measurements_ were
correct (odds of a bogus meter reading showing power-in == power-out in
run 4 would seem to be pretty low --
you'd expect to see either excess power or an unexplained power loss in
such a case, and in run 5, the lack of boiling was consistent with the
meter readings).
Obviously lots of other things could have been wrong, including the
possible use of a steel anode in place of platinum (quoting Jed, in old
email -- dunno for sure what anode Little was using on those runs). If
he'd packed up his meters (which appear to be portable) and taken them to
Japan and observed a successful run in Mizuno's lab, it would have at
least made it pretty clear whether it was something going on inside the
cell or something going on with the measurements which made his results
come out differently.
Please understand, this is a kind of "Gee I wish..." thing rather than a
criticism of anyone.
Steve, I understand. This is **not** uncommon. I don't know if steel in
place of platinum is critical to the effect. but if you are going validate
someone's work you *****duplicate***** it first until you see the same
results. Then you can 'do your own thing'. If Mizuno wears a pointy hat, you
wear one too. You simply cannot assume that *you* know better. If, for
example, Scott used steel instead of platinum in his lab, and knew thae
Mizuno used platinum, this is a gross error and flying to Japan with digital
pocket meters is not apt to be very informative. You do the homework first.
Some years ago Miley had performed some experiments showing transmutation
and went so far as to provide kits for others to duplicate his work. Scott
got a kit and went though the motions but did not get Miley's result. After
much discussion back and forth, it develops that Scott did not **duplicate**
something, I think it was a gasket material. Irrelevant? Absolutely not, in
a chemical experiment, for gaskets can leach contaminants. As I recall,
Miley was furious about this.
[If I have something wrong in the above account, pease correct me.]
Mike Carrell
