Jones, It sounds like my understanding of IRH is wrong and I need to find the source of the description. Can you point to a particular paper, where IRH is described? Perhaps by Lawandy or Miley? From what you described, it doesn't sound like IRH is a plausible state of condensed matter.
In the case of Mills' hydrino or the DDL states described by Maly, et al; ALL of the states below ground level are lower energy than the ground state. The deepest, relativistic orbital described by Naudts with the K-G equation, and Maly, et al with the Dirac solutions is the coldest, lowest energy of them all - it is 500-509 keV BELOW the ground state; decidedly low total (Hamiltonian) energy. Perhaps you are intuitively sensing volumetric energy density, which is not what nature necessarily minimizes. Hydrino states, as described by Mills, and DDL states as described by Meulenberg, cannot be entered or transited by emission/absorption of a photon. Your mention of EUV photons suggests photon emission, but those photons came from the catalyst that absorbed the energy from the hydrino by evanescent means; the catalyst, in so doing, becoming excited, and then relaxing by emission of the EUV photon. The requirement for non-photonic transition between the DDL states (due to insufficient angular momentum to create a photon) is what keeps them nearly invisible to detection. I don't think Holmlid or Winterberg have a plausible understanding of the results of their experiments. They have a hypothesis, but I don't think it will stand up to continued experiment. Winterberg does not believe that UDH is possible, only UDD; but Holmlid obviously believes UDH is possible. On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote: > Bob > > The problem breaks down to identifying when the electron becomes > essentially dissociated from the proton. IRH is not really an atom that > has lost energy and entered a state below the ground state, since that > level assumes the electron is still attached as an orbital. > > My take on the semantics is that IRH is the state described by Lawandy > where the “support” holds the disconnected electron(s), which attracts > the proton(s) electrostatically, so that many protons can accumulate in a 2D > area which is less total area than a single orbital would occupy but is > far less dense than Holmlid imagines. > > IRH is not an atom in this view nor is it the equivalent to the Hydrino > of Mills or Deep Dirac Levels (DDL) described by Maly & Va'vra, Naudts > Meulenberg, etc. Those are atoms. The shrinking hydrino is a low energy > and denser form of a hydrogen atom, because energy is depleted below the > ground level as EUV photons are emitted, but the electron still orbits > attached. > > The irony and the problem is that at the deepest level the electron must > become relativistic or very close, which is decidedly not lower energy. Some > theorists even call it by another acronym (like we really need another > one) which is the relativistic Schrodinger electron deep level (EDL). This > may make it less likely to be real, in contrast to IRH but both could be > happening in various circumstances. > > I am told by experts that Lawandy’s paper is stronger than Maly etc, but > that is over my pay grade. Holmlid was co-author with Miley on IRH, but > dropped the designation in favor of RM. I do not know precisely why he > did this, or if Miley stuck with Lawandy or not. My opinion is that > Holmlid should have stuck with IRH - and that UDH is the same as IRH … and > possibly that DDL is a non-physical invention … since the shrinking > hydrino cannot suddenly change from a low to a high energy state > spontaneously, without violating CoE… unless as Fran Roarty believes, it > becomes pumped to that state in a Casimir cavity. > >
