On Jan 14, 2006, at 4:00 AM, Grimer wrote:

At 01:30 am 14/01/2006 -0900, Horace wrote:

How does the repulsion between two protons work
in your model, in and out of the lattice?

Horace


That's a good question Horace cos it obviously relates
to the possibility of deuterons approaching deuterons
and fusing.

True, but my question mostly relates how similar balls repel by the same model that causes attraction. There should be a similarly short answer.



All I can do is to repeat what I have said clearly on
more than one occasion.

That is unfortunate.

The Beta-atmosphere pressure
inside materials is many Alpha-atmospheres lower than
it is outside materials in allegedly empty space.

This means that the physics is going to be very different
inside than outside. Think Dr.Who's police box.

I am in the process of writing a post on The Horace Hiatus,
the gap between wavelength and  water.

On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 03:26:55 -0800 you displayed the
curiosity of a true scientist when you wrote,

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   That's interesting.  I wonder how water does that.
   The 320 GHz, 180 GHz, and 22 GHz is around .0936 cm,
   0.1666 cm, and 1.363 cm wavelength respectively.
   That is to say I wonder how that tiny molecule
   collects those giant wavelengths?  It must be the
   effect Bill Beaty talks about, where an antenna
   sets up its own field that interferes with the big
   incoming signal and collects energy from it. I never
   did understand that effect.
   ====================================================

Actually I feel I have a basic understanding from the QM perspective, i.e. the photoelectric effect, but not from the "little antenna" perspective. However, *nothing* viewed from a QM perspective provides a comfortable feeling of understanding! From the QM perspective, the quantum wave of the photon, its quantum potential, its"possibility wave", can be very large. In fact it gets larger with distance. When the photon is absorbed it can under some circumstances eject an electron from a single atom. This is merely an example of quantum wavefunction collapse. The universe of potentialities for the photon is converted to just one single event at one location. This wavefunction collapse thing happens lots in QM, so you get accustomed to the concept.


I only wish the professionals I had to deal with during
my four decades of government research had a fraction of
the thirst for knowledge of the truth about nature that
you display.   8-)

In response to your observation, I commented,

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   On the other hand it could be because it collects
   energy, not from the transverse wave but from the
   much shorter longitudinal wave.
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At the time I intuitively realised that was right -
but I couldn'd see why. Now I can.  8-)

Well, the longitudinal concept doesn't provide much satisfaction. You are left with the same problem. The longitudinal portion of the photon, if such exists, and it is hard *not* to think it exists because it is hard *not* to think of a photon as a 3D object, must be spread over the same area of potentiality that the latitudinal stuff is. In other words the pancake may not be infinitely thin, but it still travels flat and when it hits flat it still has to deliver its energy essentially to a point. It does this even when hitting a flat surface in the photoelectric effect.



I've downloaded photos of the following relevant paper
onto the Beta-atmosphere_group Yahoo site,

On the Nature of Mass, F.HOYLE & J.V.NARLIKAR
Nature Vol. 233, September 1971, pp.41-44

Do you have a URL for that?"

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