By definition AT&T is an organization and cannot do anything - people can
do things.

Best Regards ,
Lennart Thornros


lenn...@thornros.com
+1 916 436 1899

Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and
enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM)


On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Joe Hughes <jhughe...@comcast.net> wrote:

> I'm not sure how you can say that AT&T never invented anything.
> For decades Bell Labs (Part of AT&T) was one of the preeminent research
> labs in the world.
>
> From Wikipedia:
>
> *At its peak, Bell Laboratories was the premier facility of its type,
> developing a wide range of revolutionary technologies, including **radio
> astronomy <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_astronomy>**, the **transistor
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transistor>**, the **laser
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser>**, **information theory
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_theory>**, the operating
> system **Unix <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix>**, the programming
> languages **C
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_%28programming_language%29>** and **C++
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B>**. Eight Nobel Prizes have been
> awarded for work completed at Bell Laboratories.**[8]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Labs#cite_note-8>*
>
>    - *1937: **Clinton J. Davisson
>    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Davisson>** shared the Nobel
>    Prize in Physics for demonstrating the wave nature of matter.*
>    - *1956: **John Bardeen <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bardeen>**,
>    **Walter H. Brattain
>    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_H._Brattain>**, and **William
>    Shockley <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shockley>** received
>    the Nobel Prize in Physics for inventing the first **transistors
>    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transistor>**.*
>    - *1977: **Philip W. Anderson
>    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_W._Anderson>** shared the Nobel
>    Prize in Physics for developing an improved understanding of the electronic
>    structure of glass and magnetic materials.*
>    - *1978: **Arno A. Penzias
>    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arno_A._Penzias>** and **Robert W.
>    Wilson <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Woodrow_Wilson>** shared
>    the Nobel Prize in Physics. Penzias and Wilson were cited for their
>    discovering **cosmic microwave background radiation
>    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_microwave_background_radiation>**,
>    a nearly uniform glow that fills the **Universe
>    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe>** in the microwave band of
>    the radio spectrum.*
>    - *1997: **Steven Chu <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Chu>**
>    shared the Nobel Prize in Physics for developing methods to cool and trap
>    atoms with laser light.*
>    - *1998: **Horst Störmer
>    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horst_St%C3%B6rmer>**, **Robert
>    Laughlin <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Laughlin>**, and **Daniel
>    Tsui <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Tsui>**, were awarded the
>    Nobel Prize in Physics for discovering and explaining the **fractional
>    quantum Hall effect
>    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractional_quantum_Hall_effect>**.*
>    - *2009: **Willard S. Boyle
>    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willard_S._Boyle>**, **George E. Smith
>    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_E._Smith>** shared the Nobel
>    Prize in Physics with **Charles K. Kao
>    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_K._Kao>**. Boyle and Smith were
>    cited for inventing **charge-coupled device
>    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charge-coupled_device>** (CCD)
>    semiconductor imaging sensors.*
>    - *2014: **Eric Betzig <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Betzig>**
>    shared the Nobel Prize in Chemistry for his work in super-resolved
>    fluorescence microscopy which he began pursuing while at Bell Labs.*
>
> *The **Turing Award <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_Award>** has
> twice been won by Bell Labs researchers:*
>
>    - *1968: **Richard Hamming
>    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Hamming>** for his work on
>    numerical methods, automatic coding systems, and error-detecting and
>    error-correcting codes.*
>    - *1983: **Ken Thompson <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Thompson>**
>    and **Dennis Ritchie <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ritchie>**
>    for their work on operating system theory, and for developing **Unix
>    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix>**.*
>
>
> Granted they were spun out of AT&T in 1990's, but still a very impressive
> list.
>
> Joe
>
>
> On 4/14/16 5:01 PM, Lennart Thornros wrote:
>
> Jed,
> Very few small companies went belly up because of those examples I gave.
> The number of people  impact was infinitesimal small.
> The other side is that many small companies had the flexibility to shift
> and therefore they grow.
>
> AT&T has never invented anything.
> Shockley was given credit I think. Not important who and where as it was
> many people over decades getting there - I guess the selenium diode was a
> German invention in the 30is.
> Same thing for HP and TI, which actually are examples of companies that
> grow because of seeing the shift. I do not believe that there is a given
> formula for all small and all large companies.
> I do know that large corporation become stagnant and inflexible at some
> point in time. That would be OK. The problem is that we do not let them
> follow the natural part and go belly up. The government comes in and 'save
> the jobs'.
> Really they create a monster with total inflexibility.
>
> You know there are many small companies that are inflexible. That is
> because they are often managed by one individual and if he is inflexible
> then the company will be and probably not do so good.
> Unfortunately there are stubborn inflexible people that cannot see the
> forest for all the trees.. No, Jed small companies do not lack flexibility
> in general and to survive they need to be flexible.
>
> Best Regards ,
> Lennart Thornros
>
>
> lenn...@thornros.com
> +1 916 436 1899
>
> Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and
> enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM)
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Lennart Thornros <lenn...@thornros.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> There is theory called the S-curve theory. Many examples from the vacuum
>>> tube / transistor evolution and calculators mechanic / solid state. Plenty
>>> of big companies went belly up as they did not react fast enough.
>>>
>>
>> So did many small companies.
>>
>>
>>
>>> This is why large corporations are a bad thing. They have no flexibility
>>> . . .
>>>
>>
>> The transistor was invented at AT&T, and the calculator at HP and TI.
>> Those were large corporations. Your own examples show that sometimes big
>> corporations are good thing, and they sometimes have flexibility.
>>
>> Small companies often lack flexibility.
>>
>> - Jed
>>
>>
>
>

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