Bob,

There is one other paper I keep forgetting to bring into this discussion on 
ultra-dense hydrogen. It is Dufour’s brilliant hypothesis of a VERY SIZEABLE 
INCREASE OF GRAVITATION AT PICOMETER DISTANCE 

http://www.iscmns.org/asti06/J-DUFOUR%20-%20ASTI%20PRESENTATION%20-%202006.pdf

This can explain how dense clusters of same charge can stay together despite 
electrostatic repulsion. It could be a critical piece of the puzzle which 
combines Holmlid, Lawandy, Mills and the rest into a package which has few lose 
ends, and is almost ready for prime time – as soon as that pesky radiation 
signature turns up at 511 keV. (noting again that the signal may be low at any 
single spot within the huge bubble of muon decay, but when the totality of 
dispersal is considered – it will be very significant.

From: Bob Higgins 
*       What you describe is certainly an interesting and scary proposition - 
that protons could be sheared or broken apart.  However, it is hard to imagine 
a number of thing in this hypothesis and that of Olafssen/Holmlid.  First of 
all, where did the potential energy come from to put two hydrogen nuclei in 
2.3pm proximity? 
My view on this differs from Holmlid and incorporates Lawandy’s view. For the 
sake of argument, consider that SPP are the formative cause of densification. 
They form a magnetic vortex on a surface between a conductor (not necessarily a 
metal) and a dielectric, and if hydrogen is also there, the H orbitals become 
entrained in the catalyst, powering the ring current and leaving Cooper pairs 
of protons as the end product, which can then further group into clusters. The 
hexagonal structure of hematite is critical.
Yes, this requires energy from a flux of photons and is lossy. So the 
cumulative photons would supply the energy of densification. Any excess comes 
later.
*       Second, SPP is an electron resonance at a metal/dielectric interface, 
but the electrons themselves are in the metal (AFIK).  How would these 
electrons that are in the metal (resonant in SPP or not) be complicit in a 
UDD/UDH breakup?
                                  
IMO the electrons appear as ring current around the hexagon structure of iron 
oxide in the same way that electrons appear around the hexagonal ring of 
graphene oxide. A “local conductor” has substituted for the metal of the normal 
SPP and that is hematite, which fills both roles – dielectric and local 
conductor.
*       Thirdly, why would UDD/UDH be stable?
Now that is a big mystery. Unlike metallic hydrogen, which is only stable so 
long as high pressure is applied and maintained, and which is far less dense 
than UDH, what we are probably seeing is a new isomer of metallic hydrogen 
which does not require continuous pressure. 
Holmlid is the expert but his view changes over time and he is probably 
incorrect on some points. Same with Miley, Lawandy, Mills, Winterberg, Hora, 
Olafsson and everyone else who comes into this field with their own background 
and preconceived notions.
IMO – everyone can cherry pick up to the point that a defining experiment comes 
along and this may come from an unexpected source, maybe one of Holmlid’s 
students… who knows? Thankfully there does seem to be a cadre of younger 
researchers, mostly Nordic, getting involved in this R&D.

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