"Grays" were aliens associated with Area 51, IIRC, but a lot of the security around the Broom Lake region was eventually lifted, as I understand it, and no aliens ever turned up, and the whole thing appears to have been a tempest in a teapot caused by the Air Force's love of secrecy coupled with test flights of a bunch of weird designs, including prototype stealth fighters and related craft.

Anyhow that's my understanding, and that's the assumption that went into my comment about grays under the White House.

The assumption that there are aliens running the government also involves a whole pile of (very improbable) secondary assumptions, and there's no evidence beyond some old rather dubious photographs sourced by one person with nothing to show they weren't a hoax, and a handful of unsupported assertions by various people. So, the probability that the assumption is true appears to be very very small.

Orgone energy OTOH was a contentious issue on and around Vortex in years past. As I recall Jed was on the sign of "it's bogus", and some others, including Gene Malov, were on the side of "it's revolutionary". AFAIK no solid evidence for its existence ever surfaced, so it remains in the realm of "Joe said so" and accepting it as true requires a sufficiently large set of unlikely assumptions that it should be viewed as very improbable.

On 05/26/2016 10:13 PM, Eric Walker wrote:
On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    orgone energy or grays living in tunnels under the Whitehouse


Orgone energy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgone

Learned something new today.  What are "grays"?

Eric


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