On 08/08/2016 09:30 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
If you assume there was actually some pressure, then there was only hot water, not steam, where the temperature went from 60°C to 100°C.

I feel like this is where I came in.

Years ago, in early ecat tests, Rossi had a *fixed* flow rate of water going in, and claimed 100% dry steam coming out, but the temperature of the effluent was nailed hard to boiling: 100C (or perhaps a degree or two higher, presumably due to some overpressure in the system). This, despite the fact that the temperature rose with a fairly steep slope until it hit 100C, and despite the fact that claimed power output went from just enough to heat the input flow to 100C to enough to entirely vaporize it in essentially zero time (which entailed a rather large power jump), and despite the fact that there was /no/ feedback mechanism in place to assure that the power produced was /exactly/ enough to vaporize the *fixed* flow rate of water he was pumping into the system -- with nothing left over.

The arbitrary, fixed input flow rate meant that the power needed to do this was also a fixed amount, determined by the flow rate. Steam has a low enough specific heat that any _excess_ of energy would have shown up as superheated steam; that (clearly) never happened. And any _deficit_ would have meant it couldn't vaporize all the input water, but that (supposedly) never happened either -- despite the apparent lack of feedback in the system.

The only sensible explanation was that there /was/ a feedback mechanism present, and unless Rossi was riding the gain on the electrical input to provide enough energy to the heater to exactly vaporize the water, the only mechanism in place to keep the effluent temperature at boiling and no higher was if the effluent was actually a mixture of steam and water, and in that case the power produced was certainly lower than claimed.

As I recall the mechanism used to prove the steam was dry was hotly contested, claimed by some to be completely invalid for that application. And no explanation was provided at all for how the power could have been /exactly/ sufficient to evaporate all the input water exactly as fast as it came in; that issue wasn't even hand-waved. The problem of explaining the amazing coincidence between power produced and power needed to vaporize the input flow was simply ignored.

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