I seem to remember Jones remarking how difficult that replicating Holmlid's experiment was because Holmlid needs to pump energy into the ultra dense hydrogen for weeks before mesons begin to be detected. But after that energy was loaded, exposure to lab lights were enough to feed meson production.
Is my memory true regarding the requirement for large scale energy storage in ultra dense hydrogen activation? On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 4:56 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote: > No, your conclusion is both wrong and short-sighted - and apparently you > forgot to actually look at the data and go on memory. > > The data in the last Table shows that in run 2, 5.5 MJ of input was > unaccounted for and could have been stored. You clearly missed that, but it > is the tip of the iceberg. > > The data says nothing about ongoing nuclear changes which could have > reduced the apparent gain in those runs with apparent gain - therefore in > all seven runs, there could have been both exotherm and endotherm taking > place in the same electrode, such that stored nuclear changes were > absorbing some of the gain which was occurring with a delay from prior > stored changes. > > I assume you had read this report years ago but please try reread the > papers again before making unjustified conclusions. But you main error is > the assumption that the entire electrode is either in an endothermic phase > or exothermic, when it is much more complicated and both phases can take > place simultaneously, with only the net effect being recorded. > > Jones > > On 6/6/2017 8:02 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > Jones Beene wrote: > >> Any calorimeter that can measure a positive exothermic reaction of X >> watts can measure an endothermic reaction of -X watts equally well. >> >> Energy storage is ruled out. >> >> >> Not really ruled out. Let's be exact: energy storage by the conventional >> chemical redox reaction is and always has been ruled out - OK - we can go >> that far. >> > > You are missing the point. Energy storage is ruled out because *the data > shows that no energy was stored*. The balance was zero. There was no > endothermic phase. There would have to be such a phase if energy was > stored. It would have to show up in the calorimeter data. The negative > signal would be stronger than the positive signal that followed during the > exothermic phase, because the endothermic phase would be shorter. > > - Jed > > >
