Eric: I notice that you didn't bother to address my example. Twice, now. Readers will be the judge of your moderating capabilities.
You claim that by giving Mary the boot you'd be editorializing the content but you're already editorializing the content by coming down hard on only one side of the insults. Readers will be the judge.... On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 7:58 AM, Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Kevin, > > Eric, you're completely full of shit. >> >> The example I posted wasn't even an insult and it was moved to some other >> thread. > > > Here are some of your posts that were moved; readers will be the judge of > how much value you added to the conversation in posting them, and how much > they simply served to needlessly make the place a little more toxic: > > https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/5271-clearance- > items/?postID=62695#post62695 > https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/5271-clearance- > items/?postID=62652#post62652 > https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/5271-clearance- > items/?postID=62662#post62662 > https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/5271-clearance- > items/?postID=62674#post62674 > > Once I saw that you were in full-on attack mode, I began to move your > posts to the bargain bin with prejudice, in order to avoid allowing the > place to devolve into the war that you sought to bring about. > > And NO, you are NOT giving notice that certain posts have been moved to >> another thread. NOT EVEN ONE of my posts had that notification. > > > How about these two notices? The first in the bargain bin thread, where > everyone but you will have known to look, and the second in the thread > where you were posting your belligerent stuff: > > https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/5271-clearance- > items/?postID=62688#post62688 > https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/4745-rossi-vs- > darden-developments-part-2/?postID=62696#post62696 > > >> You're so concerned about spam that it goes down to NOT EVEN ONE >> notification onthread until you're getting questioned about it. > > > Hopefully we’ve cleared up this misconception. > > You say it was a judgement call; your judgement is called into question as >> a result. >> >> Some of this stuff is so simple. I've seen comments that were moved to >> another thread but they had already been quoted. So what you could do... >> what you should do... what I would do with your capabilities... is just >> quote the comment, remove the offending remarks and say that the original >> post was moved to the timeout/penalty box thread. Then everyone is on >> notice. >> >> Instead you prefer to put people on "probation" without them even knowing >> about it. > > > You were given a request and then a warning, as I said above. You were on > a roll, and if you were allowed to continue, you would have brought the > conversation down a notch, which you did, while you were in your zone. > > >> Also, if you're going to be sending some comments that contain insults >> over to other threads then you should start with the guy who starts with >> the insults. Your treatment of the issue has been completely one-sided. >> I did not start with the insults against the lawyer, he started in on me. > > > Part of your difficulty may be that you’re willing to escalate what you > perceive to be subtle slights into a full-blown brawl. Subtle slights that > don’t use foul language have a much easier time making it through than > full-on ad homs with crass language. > > You value the newbie lawyer over someone like me who's been signed on for >> 2 years because, well, he claims to be a lawyer even though someone >> upthread tried to dox him and question the legitimacy of his claim. For a >> lawyer, he sure missed quite a few legal points. > > > My perception, and it’s just my perception, is that he knows something > about the law from years of experience practicing it. That does count for > something. > > Mary Yugo isn't even a woman. He got booted rightfully so from this >> forum and he/she's trolling yours. If you had wisdom you'd remove her/it >> from your forum as well. > > > In giving Mary the boot, we would be editorializing the content. > > >> You should just admit that you made a mistake and hope that vorts will >> want to head on over to your discussion. > > > I’m quite happy with my treatment of you, as it's kept the level of > conversation over at LENR Forum from taking a dive as a consequence of your > belligerent interactions, and you’re still on probation. > > Eric > > > On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 5:09 AM, Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Eric, you're completely full of shit. >> >> The example I posted wasn't even an insult and it was moved to some other >> thread. And NO, you are NOT giving notice that certain posts have been >> moved to another thread. NOT EVEN ONE of my posts had that notification. >> You're so concerned about spam that it goes down to NOT EVEN ONE >> notification onthread until you're getting questioned about it. You >> say it was a judgement call; your judgement is called into question as a >> result. >> >> Some of this stuff is so simple. I've seen comments that were moved to >> another thread but they had already been quoted. So what you could do... >> what you should do... what I would do with your capabilities... is just >> quote the comment, remove the offending remarks and say that the original >> post was moved to the timeout/penalty box thread. Then everyone is on >> notice. Instead you prefer to put people on "probation" without them even >> knowing about it. >> >> Also, if you're going to be sending some comments that contain insults >> over to other threads then you should start with the guy who starts with >> the insults. Your treatment of the issue has been completely one-sided. >> I did not start with the insults against the lawyer, he started in on me. >> You value the newbie lawyer over someone like me who's been signed on for 2 >> years because, well, he claims to be a lawyer even though someone upthread >> tried to dox him and question the legitimacy of his claim. For a lawyer, >> he sure missed quite a few legal points. But that didn't stop him from >> insulting someone else on the forum. When you review my comments you will >> see that I did not start any insults, my insults are responsive. >> >> Mary Yugo isn't even a woman. He got booted rightfully so from this >> forum and he/she's trolling yours. If you had wisdom you'd remove her/it >> from your forum as well. >> >> I'm not "new" to the forum, I signed up more than 2 years ago. But it >> was a backwater then so it fell off my radar. I am "new" to Rossi vs. >> Darden because it's been sitting on the back legal burner for more than a >> year. You have other commenters that are hurling insults. You should >> just admit that you made a mistake and hope that vorts will want to head on >> over to your discussion. And also, you should make your title say >> "Moderator". You're far too thin skinned to jump in as an untitled >> moderator. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 6:50 PM, Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Comments get moved to another thread without notification. >>>> >>> >>> When people such as yourself flood the forum with throwaway comments, we >>> moderators would spam the place to give as many notifications. Had you >>> known how things are done on LENR Forum, you would have known that >>> throwaway comments with crass and insulting language get moved to a >>> separate thread and know where to find them. We generally put a note at >>> the bottom of a comment once it's been moved to let people know about >>> this. You did not know that LENR Forum does this, because you dived right >>> in with your throwaway insults rather than getting to know the place. >>> >>> >>>> Commenters can get put "on probation" without notification. >>> >>> >>> We put trolls and would-be brawlers on probation. >>> >>> You yourself are a moderator but it doesn't say that on your title. >>> >>> >>> I gave my reasons for this in an earlier response to you, which you do >>> not mention. I'll link to my reply: >>> >>> https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/5271-clearance-items >>> /?postID=62766#post62766 >>> >>> You allow insults from some people but not others in a one-sided >>>> fashion, again without notification. >>> >>> >>> It's invariably a judgment call. If there's either a substantive point >>> that has been made, or the person is known to make good points and insult >>> everyone equally and without an emotional charge, they're less likely to >>> have a comment moved. If the insult is obviously charged and the comment >>> brings no useful additional information, it's likely to be moved. We do >>> not apply a rote formula. We apply judgment in an effort to raise the >>> level of conversation. This weighs somewhat more heavily against posters >>> who have little substantive to offer. That's just the nature of the >>> situation. >>> >>> So those of us who would like to go over there will have to jump through >>>> your unpublished moderation guidelines >>>> in order to avoid "probation". >>>> >>> >>> Or you could just lurk for awhile and see how things are done. It's a >>> natural thing to do when coming to a new forum to try watch and observe and >>> see how things are done. >>> >>> >>>> There aren't that many rules over here on Vortex but even still, some >>>> of your more vociferous and full-of-shit members over there have been >>>> banned from Vortex, like MaryYugo. >>>> >>> >>> Mary Yugo has always been controversial, but she almost invariably >>> addresses matters of substance rather than intending to rile up other forum >>> members and start a fight. She insults people, but her aim is not to start >>> a brawl. She has brought up many good points about Rossi over the years, >>> so she gets a little bit of latitude to be a character. >>> >>> Eric >>> >>> >> >
