Bob, I realize I am way out of the box here and perhaps my syntax is lacking but the point I was trying to make is that the new physics behind the EM drive and anomalous heat may simply be a new form of our old friend SR.. we can't talk over unity wrt normal SR since it takes so much energy to reach near C but it does give us some insight wrt unbalancing the spatial reactionary forces because the direction of thrust and energy expended do NOT deliver you to the Newtonian calculated position when your velocity approaches significant fractions of C. I am proposing a "negative relativistic frame" is being created by standing waves inside the EM that unbalance RF pressure against the walls of the trapezoid... some waves are not taking an equidistance path due to SR and are experience time dilation in proportion to the amunt of thrust detected. By negative relativistic frame I am referring to my interpretation of Casimir effect where the larger virtual particles are not supressed in the cavity but rather undergo Lorentzian contraction such that a local observer inside a Casimir cavity would see all the virtual particles at normal size just like the Paradox twin would see his surroundings normally in his near C spaceship. This interpretation means that instead of a Haisch Rhueda analogy of virtual particles hitting the windshield of near C automobile or the Pythagorean relationship between V^2/C^2 we instead oppose the flow of these VP thru our plane vis nano geometry of super cats like Rayney nickel or nickel powders used by LENR researchers. Im am suggesting that a stationary lump of Rayney nickel sitting in our plane view on a labbench contains numerous nano relativistic frames created by Casimir geometries that can effect atomic gases loaded into the metal, this of course would be using nature to extract energy by nature of the geometry where as the EM drive is just that a "drive" and escapes the nano requirement because it isn't trying to capture energy but rather use microwave energy to try and scale up the size and number of these relativistic frames in an organized exploitable geometry. IMHO negative SR escapes the near C requirement because it is suppressing flow not racing to try and equal it and instead of energy requirements it utilizes geometry and mirror surfaces to suppress and focus segregated regions where the virtual particles are dilated to fit between the boundaries. Fran
From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com [mailto:bobcook39...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 4:46 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Article: This Overlooked Theory Could Be The Missing Piece That Explains How The EM Drive Works It seems that exchanging the dimensions of time for space as suggested would imply no way to physically measure either dimension, since the dimensions have some physical (measurable) characteristic by definition. Logically I do not follow this proposal. Bob Cook From: Roarty, Francis X <francis.x.roa...@lmco.com<mailto:francis.x.roa...@lmco.com>> Sent: Sunday, November 5, 2017 10:09:38 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Cc: Russell, David Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Article: This Overlooked Theory Could Be The Missing Piece That Explains How The EM Drive Works Hi Russ, I don't believe in multiple miracles and pilot wave may explain the "execution" of the reactionless anomaly but I am predicting the underlying physics is also responsible for LENR and anomalous heat. I am still convinced of a relativistic interpretation of Casimir effect will tie these seemingly unrelated anomalies together. No one would argue that the reaction and vector of a spacecraft approaching C violates Newton's law via SR wrt to calculated destination vs time and location actually achieved.. of course it all balances out with Lorentz transforms as long as we exchange time for space... and I think that is what is really happening in both the EM drive and the reports of anomalous heat except we are going in the other direction.. we in surrounding macro laboratory are now near C relative to a bench experiments of physical or RF geometry, nickel powder of LENR or standing waves in closed waveguide of EM drive, that both constrict the flow of virtual particles through our plane. In claims of anomalous heat I propose the atomic gas gets older thru time dilation that we perceive as a super catalyst or Casimir action and IMHO allows for a self-assembly of a natural Maxwell's demon that segregates the atoms, instead of by thermal, by time dilation in fractional steps and can discount disassociation threshold of molecules to the point of over unity. Likewise I suspect standing waves trapped in the trapezoidal closed waveguide of the EM drive also oppose virtual particles passing thru and set up regions like a relativistic Casimir effect where radio waves repeatedly have their pressure upon the opposing walls modified slightly by time dilation and contraction.. just like the SR spacecraft you don't go where Newtonian calculations predict and just like the spaceship the axis of the traveling wave is going to see all the contraction and dilation upsetting the normal strict 90 degree of time to space [at least from perspective of external observer]. Where we need to throw copious power into accelerating a ship to near C we can use nature for cheap to instead oppose virtual particles entering and exiting the time axis and produce these relativistic effects in Casimir effect or using RF energy in a microwave cavity [drive the virtual particles]. Fran From: Russ George [mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 7:41 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Article: This Overlooked Theory Could Be The Missing Piece That Explains How The EM Drive Works Yes the paper does help. I like the pilot wave convention as surely something of that sort is required to explain the cold fusion process which I have been working on for so many years. It takes some doing to convert deuterium to 4He and even 3He but that surely is irrefutable. It is curious that the EM drive which is so far 'outside of the box' of classical physics seems to be close to 'cold fusion' I presume we have simply expanded the 'box' and are thus able to see the relationships. Thanks for the paper. I am eagerly awaiting some super cooled EM drive data. Russ From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2017 7:37 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:Article: This Overlooked Theory Could Be The Missing Piece That Explains How The EM Drive Works Russ, Does this paper help? https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/10.2514/1.B36120 On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:32 AM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com<mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com>> wrote: Alas once again the world of vulture science has placed this seemingly interesting paper behind a paywall. We need a grand inquisitor to take on the world of science again but this time to apply the screws to those in science who put knowledge behind paywalls. The world cannot afford nor should it tolerate this sort of perverse capitalism. Science trolls greedily guarding the bridges to knowledge need to be eliminated. From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com<mailto:janap...@gmail.com>] Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2017 8:23 AM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:Article: This Overlooked Theory Could Be The Missing Piece That Explains How The EM Drive Works What the pilot wave theory applied to the EM drive does not explicitly say is that a coherent wave pattern acts like a large particle. The Em drive becomes a large particle. It goes to reason if the EM drive where made coherent then the EM drive would be very much more powerful because the coherent resonant pilot wave would coherently coupled with the EM drive making everything a single giant particle. A superconductive EM drive would do that. On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Jack Cole <jcol...@gmail.com<mailto:jcol...@gmail.com>> wrote: This Overlooked Theory Could Be The Missing Piece That Explains How The EM Drive Works http://flip.it/R11OHO
