Sorry;  If you saw this previously, apparently I made a typo in the URL.
It should be;

https://arxiv.org/abs/1712.07962

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 4:43 PM CB Sites <cbsit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wow.  I just read a science brief on a new theory that explains
> Dark-matter and Dark-energy in a very odd way.  Ponder this one for a
> moment.  Empty space has a negative mass.  Not zero mass but something with
> a minus sign in front of it!  This is a new model worked out by Dr. Jamie
> Farnes of the Oxford e-Research Centre published in 'Astronomy and
> Astrophysics'.  So because empty space has negative mass, it has negative
> gravity and thus the universe is accelerating as it expands from negative
> gravity.
>
> Maybe CNF has tapped into negative mass in the empty space of the lattice
> voids?  Or maybe it's more like stuff from the old movie 'Flubber'.  Either
> way, it's an interesting perspective on Dark matter and Dark energy.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 11:23 AM CB Sites <cbsit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sometimes you stumble on to a story from a source you don't expect.
>> Forbes had this write up on Erik Verlinde's theory(s) and I think it will
>> give insight to others why Dark matter may simply be an emergent effect by
>> the quantum occupation of space/time by matter.   No hard details but a
>> nice overview from Forbes;
>>
>>
>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/02/28/is-dark-matter-about-to-be-killed-by-emergent-gravity/#70bcb0d05359
>>
>> That doesn't mean that something couldn't be oscillating in neutrons
>> makeup.   It would just be hard to explain give how baryons decay and
>> morph.   See; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_baryons
>> and https://www.revolvy.com/page/List-of-particles is also
>> interesting.   https://www.revolvy.com/page/List-of-baryons points to
>> the problem with dark matter.  If it's a baryon, it doesn't fit with
>> anything we know.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 10:20 AM Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I like Erik Verlinde's theory and papers. Definitely worth a read.
>>>
>>> Some of his thinking is consistent with the "mirror matter" proposition,
>>> so long as the mystery particles are generally located in a parallel
>>> dimension, so that they interact with normal matter minimally no matter how
>>> they are characterized... and which dimension has remarkable similarity to
>>> Dirac's reciprocal space. To claim that something (mysterious) is an
>>> emergent property of something else (better known) is framing the problem
>>> philosophically and of limited value in pointing to a real-world
>>> application unless the particles are literally emerging from one dimension
>>> into another dimension - aka: mirror matter oscillation.
>>>
>>> Admittedly, most of this is well above my pay grade to comprehend - so
>>> unless there is a particularly useful aspect of any theory which can be
>>> incorporated into LENR experiment, it is more like flag-waving. When a
>>> researcher says he has evidence that 1% of any neutron beam oscillates so
>>> as to exhibit the properties of a different kind of neutron ... and can
>>> decay in our 3-space even if came from another space - that sounds like a
>>> detail which can be useful somehow and incorporated into experiment. The
>>> more one looks at the Bush/Eagleton rubidium experiment, the more it seems
>>> to do this (despite the inventors being completely wrong on their own
>>> explanation),
>>>
>>> In LENR it seems there is a high probability that hydrogen morphs into
>>> "something else" when confined in a metal matrix - and which species may
>>> not be the result of nuclear fusion per se. Having a better understanding
>>> of the properties of that particle would be important - especially if it
>>> has some broader relevance to a Universal phenomena like dark matter.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* CB Sites
>>>
>>> Every story on dark matter simply leaves me confused and perplexed.
>>>  The first question I would ask is what is the spin of dark matter.   Is it
>>> a fermion or boson?  If it's a fermion, it has to interact and if it
>>> interacts why is it nearly impossible to see the interaction.   If it's a
>>> Boson, then it would tend to undergo condensation, and you would have a
>>> bose star or a dark matter black hole.  That too should be easy to observe
>>> as a gravitational lens without a source of matter to create it.   Both
>>> have led me to conclude that dark matter is part of the concept of Emergent
>>> Gravity (Entropic Gravity).  Emergent gravity (and emergent dark matter)
>>> doesn't have spin but would effect matter gravitationally and be associated
>>> with matter since it appears out of the warping of small amounts space/time
>>> by the occupation of matter and the entropic warping of space-time from
>>> matter.    This is all from ‎Erik Verlinde's theory.   It's good stuff and
>>> I don't understand why it's not the leading candidate for a dark matter
>>> explanation.
>>>
>>>

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