Jones Beene is correct in that this should be falsifiable.   I think LIGO
could possibly detect this.  Let's say a gravitational wave was moving
across a void in the deep reaches of space where a negative mass value
might be hiding. Wouldn't a gravitational wave be dampened if it was on the
opposite side of the LIGO detector's direction?   Would there be a dampened
gravitational wave signal from far distances not seen or accounted for
compared to closer object signals?


On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 5:17 PM Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> A negative mass theory like this should be falsifiable in a
> straightforward way using an ultra-precision scale and ultra-high vacuum
> system to measure the very tiny decrease in weight of a vacuum chamber as
> it is being pumped. The whole system could be mounted on levered arms.
>
> The drop in mass as the vacuum increases should be out of proportion with
> the drop in mass at higher pressure. IOW the last few atoms removed should
> seem to weigh proportionately more, no?
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* CB Sites
>
> Wow.  I just read a science brief on a new theory that explains
> Dark-matter and Dark-energy in a very odd way.  Ponder this one for a
> moment.  Empty space has a negative mass.  Not zero mass but something with
> a minus sign in front of it!  This is a new model worked out by Dr. Jamie
> Farnes of the Oxford e-Research Centre published in 'Astronomy and
> Astrophysics'.  So because empty space has negative mass, it has negative
> gravity and thus the universe is accelerating as it expands from negative
> gravity.
>
> Maybe CNF has tapped into negative mass in the empty space of the lattice
> voids?  Or maybe it's more like stuff from the old movie 'Flubber'.  Either
> way, it's an interesting perspective on Dark matter and Dark energy.
>
>
>
> CB Sites wrote:
>
> Sometimes you stumble on to a story from a source you don't expect.
> Forbes had this write up on Erik Verlinde's theory(s) and I think it will
> give insight to others why Dark matter may simply be an emergent effect by
> the quantum occupation of space/time by matter.   No hard details but a
> nice overview from Forbes;
>
>
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/02/28/is-dark-matter-about-to-be-killed-by-emergent-gravity/#70bcb0d05359
>
> That doesn't mean that something couldn't be oscillating in neutrons
> makeup.   It would just be hard to explain give how baryons decay and
> morph.   See; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_baryons
> and https://www.revolvy.com/page/List-of-particles is also interesting.
> https://www.revolvy.com/page/List-of-baryons points to the problem with
> dark matter.  If it's a baryon, it doesn't fit with anything we know.
>
>
> Jones Beene wrote:
>
>
> I like Erik Verlinde's theory and papers. Definitely worth a read.
>
> Some of his thinking is consistent with the "mirror matter" proposition,
> so long as the mystery particles are generally located in a parallel
> dimension, so that they interact with normal matter minimally no matter how
> they are characterized... and which dimension has remarkable similarity to
> Dirac's reciprocal space. To claim that something (mysterious) is an
> emergent property of something else (better known) is framing the problem
> philosophically and of limited value in pointing to a real-world
> application unless the particles are literally emerging from one dimension
> into another dimension - aka: mirror matter oscillation.
>
> Admittedly, most of this is well above my pay grade to comprehend - so
> unless there is a particularly useful aspect of any theory which can be
> incorporated into LENR experiment, it is more like flag-waving. When a
> researcher says he has evidence that 1% of any neutron beam oscillates so
> as to exhibit the properties of a different kind of neutron ... and can
> decay in our 3-space even if came from another space - that sounds like a
> detail which can be useful somehow and incorporated into experiment. The
> more one looks at the Bush/Eagleton rubidium experiment, the more it seems
> to do this (despite the inventors being completely wrong on their own
> explanation),
>
> In LENR it seems there is a high probability that hydrogen morphs into
> "something else" when confined in a metal matrix - and which species may
> not be the result of nuclear fusion per se. Having a better understanding
> of the properties of that particle would be important - especially if it
> has some broader relevance to a Universal phenomena like dark matter.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* CB Sites
>
> Every story on dark matter simply leaves me confused and perplexed.   The
> first question I would ask is what is the spin of dark matter.   Is it a
> fermion or boson?  If it's a fermion, it has to interact and if it
> interacts why is it nearly impossible to see the interaction.   If it's a
> Boson, then it would tend to undergo condensation, and you would have a
> bose star or a dark matter black hole.  That too should be easy to observe
> as a gravitational lens without a source of matter to create it.   Both
> have led me to conclude that dark matter is part of the concept of Emergent
> Gravity (Entropic Gravity).  Emergent gravity (and emergent dark matter)
> doesn't have spin but would effect matter gravitationally and be associated
> with matter since it appears out of the warping of small amounts space/time
> by the occupation of matter and the entropic warping of space-time from
> matter.    This is all from ‎Erik Verlinde's theory.   It's good stuff and
> I don't understand why it's not the leading candidate for a dark matter
> explanation.
>
>
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