Bob :
Thanks for the reference! This is a direct proof of SO(4) physics.
That looks pretty much like what I discussed with other people. Since
Holmids last paper I did suspect that the photon wave trajectory is a
trajectory on a halve way scissored SO(4) surface. This explains the
extra circle the photon may take and these guys do interpret it as super
luminal speed - what of course is halve way wrong. What they see is a
second (4D) phase dimension - nothing more.
SO(4) is the correct mathematical space to describe dense matter. (see
also https://www.researchgate.net/project/Nuclear-and-particle-physics-20 )
If you correct the measured speed of light 1.34c (given in paper at
measurement axis 53 degrees)) with the ratio of sin(53)/sin( 45) then
you get 1.51c this is exactly the ratio (to be measured in 3D,t space)
we expect if the wave occupies 3 out of 5 possible spin dimensions of
SO( 4).
The 3 waves (2 phases) structure should be the maximum in free space as
the scissoring cuts two axes of the Clifford torus homomorphous SO(4)
charge carrying surface.
Key for LENR is that matter can go into a SO(4) spin (1FC - weak spin
force) conform intermediate state (H(0) -Holmlid) that does/"is able" to
directly interfere with a photon wave (e.g. laser wave packet).
The SO(4) spin trajectory has been predicted, but I didn't expect to get
this answer from an experiment that quick.
Thanks again.
Jürg
PS: scissoring is topological terminology!
Am 15.04.19 um 18:29 schrieb [email protected]:
In supplementing my previous comment. consideration of a actual
dimension associated with an electric charge, rather than a point, is
warranted IMHO.
Bob Cook
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Thank you Axil.. Good references!
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 2:04 PM Axil Axil <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Revised with references added
Quote
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-08735-8
Optical space-time wave packets having arbitrary group
velocities in free space
This article has shown experimentally that light can travel at
speeds that exceed the speed of light (30C).
Quote
https://www.nature.com/articles/lsa2017119
Superluminal X-waves in a polariton quantum fluid
The ability to twist light in a way so that its waveform can be
separated from its energy so that its wave front can travel at
superluminal speed is indispensable to the LENR reaction.
I have been doing some research into tachyons and have been trying
to understand faster than light wave propagation, specifically
x-waves. Here is something interesting about how special
relativity and superluminal wave propagation relate:
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Superluminal.html
Portions of this entry contributed by Waldyr A. Rodrigues, Jr.
A superluminal phenomenon is a frame of reference traveling with a
speed greater than the speed of light c. There is a putative class
of particles dubbed tachyons which are able to travel faster than
light. Faster-than-light phenomena violate the usual understanding
of the "flow" of time, a state of affairs which is known as the
causality problem (and also called the "Shalimar Treaty").
It should be noted that while Einstein's theory of special
relativity prevents (real) mass, energy, or information from
traveling faster than the speed of light c (Lorentz et al. 1952,
Brillouin and Sommerfeld 1960, Born and Wolf 1999, Landau and
Lifschitz 1997), there is nothing preventing "apparent" motion
faster than c (or, in fact, with negative speeds, implying arrival
at a destination before leaving the origin). For example, the
phase velocity and group velocity of a wave may exceed the speed
of light, but in such cases, no energy or information actually
travels faster than c. Experiments showing group velocities
greater than c include that of Wang et al. (2000), who produced a
laser pulse in atomic cesium gas with a group velocity of -310c.
In each case, the observed superluminal propagation is not at odds
with causality, and is instead a consequence of classical
interference between its constituent frequency components in a
region of anomalous dispersion (Wang et al. 2000).
Keith Fredericks has an opinion that strange radiation is a
tachyon. This SR quasiparticle might be tacjyonic is that it is
most likely based on the polariton. The polariton does generate
superluminal light in the form of x-waves.
https://www.nature.com/articles/lsa2017119
Superluminal X-waves in a polariton quantum fluid
This article shows that a polariton can naturally produce
superluminal light (X-waves) when excited with a pulsed laser.
This unexpected behavior of light may explain how Strange
radiation (SR) can be considered a tachyon, a superluminal particle.
If the SR is composed of excited entangled polaritons that are
producing superluminal light, the SR could be generating a
tachyonic field.
A tachyonic field is a field that has its maximum energy
potential at the instant of its creation and and upon perturbation
releases that energy instantaneously.
Quote
tachyonic field
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyonic_field
Also. this ability for the polariton to generate superluminal
light (X-waves) could also be at the root of the polariton's dark
mode mechanism. This dark mode behavior of SR that has been
discovered by Ken shoulders in what he termed as a black EVO
could be based on the polariton's ability to generate superluminal
light via X-waves. Only a superluminal light vortex can produce a
light based black hole that can trap and hold onto a photon.
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 1:56 PM Axil Axil <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The ability to twist light in a way so that its waveform can
be separated from its energy so that its wave front can
travel at superluminal speed is indispensable to the LENR
reaction.
I have been doing some research into tachyons and have been
trying to understand faster than light wave propagation,
specifically x-waves. Here is something interesting about how
special relativity and superluminal wave propagation relate:
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Superluminal.html
Portions of this entry contributed by Waldyr A. Rodrigues, Jr.
A superluminal phenomenon is a frame of reference traveling
with a speed greater than the speed of light c. There is a
putative class of particles dubbed tachyons which are able to
travel faster than light. Faster-than-light phenomena violate
the usual understanding of the "flow" of time, a state of
affairs which is known as the causality problem (and also
called the "Shalimar Treaty").
It should be noted that while Einstein's theory of special
relativity prevents (real) mass, energy, or information from
traveling faster than the speed of light c (Lorentz et al.
1952, Brillouin and Sommerfeld 1960, Born and Wolf 1999,
Landau and Lifschitz 1997), there is nothing preventing
"apparent" motion faster than c (or, in fact, with negative
speeds, implying arrival at a destination before leaving the
origin). For example, the phase velocity and group velocity of
a wave may exceed the speed of light, but in such cases, no
energy or information actually travels faster than c.
Experiments showing group velocities greater than c include
that of Wang et al. (2000), who produced a laser pulse in
atomic cesium gas with a group velocity of -310c. In each
case, the observed superluminal propagation is not at odds
with causality, and is instead a consequence of classical
interference between its constituent frequency components in a
region of anomalous dispersion (Wang et al. 2000).
Keith Frederickshas an opinion that strange radiation is
a tachyon. This SR quasiparticle might be tacjyonic is
that it is most likely based on the polariton. The
polariton does generate superluminal light in the form
of x-waves.
https://www.nature.com/articles/lsa2017119
Superluminal X-waves in a polariton quantum fluid
This article shows that a polariton can naturally produce
superluminal light (X-waves) when excited with a pulsed laser.
This unexpected behavior of light may explain how Strange
radiation (SR) can be considered a tachyon, a superluminal
particle.
If the SR is composed of excited entangled polaritons that are
producing superluminal light, the SR could be generating a
tachyonic field.
A tachyonic field is a field that has its maximum energy
potential at the instant of its creation and and upon
perturbation releases that energy instantaneously.
tachyonic field
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyonic_field
Also. this ability for the polariton to generate superluminal
light (X-waves) could also be at the root of the
polariton's dark mode mechanism. This dark mode behavior of SR
that has been discovered by Ken shoulders in what he
termed as a black EVO could be based on the polariton's
ability to generate superluminal light via X-waves. Only
a superluminal light vortex can produce a light based black
hole that can trap and hold onto a photon.
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