https://arxiv.org/abs/1302.4178

equations  23a, 23b, and 23c are the calculated values that Holmlid has
experimentally verified.

On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 9:24 PM Jürg Wyttenbach <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hirsch's papers clearly show that super conduction is a spin effect as all
> his math is based on induced circular movement. If neighbor SO(4)
> trajectories connect the electron magnetic flux can freely move through any
> matter. As the radius of mass increases the Meissner rotation starts as a
> simple analogy to the Coriolis force provided by electrons moving outwards
> to a larger radius. Such an effect cannot be modeled by QM as it needs a 4D
> (= 4 rotation) space concept to model a connected spin-orbit .
>
> Regarding deep orbits:
>
> There is absolutely no physical solution for the forces for any QM based
> model for deep orbits. The basic rules of any physical model that includes
> mass are given by the de Broglie radius. Any violation of the coulomb
> mass/EM-mass relation needs an additional explanation by a new physical
> concept, that has never been given by anybody that modeled deep orbits.
>
> E.g. a deep orbit of 400keV means that the electron mass classically
> should increase to a manyfold value of 400keV. But there is no mechanism to
> increase the classic central force if we do not include magnetic central
> forces. But these forces are not covered by QM and need a different
> treatment based on rotations only!
>
> Jürg
> On 11.06.2019 22:03, Axil Axil wrote:
>
> From the theory of hole superconductivity by JE Hirsch that Holmlid
> references, the electron position around the positive core of UDM is
> defined by the meissner effect pushing electrons out away from the positive
> core and the coulomb force pushing elections toward the positive core.
> Electron orbits don't matter anymore when superconductivity sets in.  The
> meissner effect pushes out all electrons from the positive core to an
> exterior location to minimize kinetic energy as follows:
>
> https://arxiv.org/abs/1302.4178
>
> I would guess that the electron cloud would form a sub orbital spin wave
> on the outside of the positive core.
>
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 12:51 PM JonesBeene <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Andrew,
>>
>>
>>
>> The similarity and contrasts between your work on dense (small) hydrogen
>> and that of several others is truly remarkable. Many brilliant researchers
>> are looking at the shadows on Plato’s cave. A breakthrough is surely
>> imminent.
>>
>>
>>
>> Other scholarly papers would include those of Mills, Holmlid, Vav’ra,
>> Mayer, Dufour, Lawandy and several more -  all of whom have  insight and
>> mathematical formality … yet, are different in details and are generally
>> neglected - not given near enough credit by mainstream physics. The common
>> denominator is that hydrogen can become densified and this change radically
>> alters the dynamics of nuclear reactions – some of which may be strongly
>> energetic but not real fusion, after all.
>>
>>
>>
>> There is evidence from Russia/Germany that paired protons collisions -
>> which almost never actually fuse – will nevertheless produce pions – as
>> Holmlid suggests. This is more meaningful in the context of Cerefolini’s
>> “binuclear atom” and provides the easy way to D fusion using the muon, as a
>> decay product of the pion.
>>
>>
>>
>> In the end – Not much fusion yet excess energy due to pion mass being
>> converted into energy.  I wish the following  paper went a little deeper or
>> there was a followup  - “Near-threshold pion production in diproton
>> reactions” by Sergey Dymov for the ANKE collaboration
>>
>>
>>
>> https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1742-6596/295/1/012095
>>
>>
>>
>> Most of the pieces of the puzzle are out there…
>>
>> ----------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Andrew Meulenberg  wrote: Jean-Luc Paillet and I are interested in this
>> 2nd link “A simple argument that small hydrogen may exist”
>>
>> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0370269319303624,
>> <https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0370269319303624>
>> because we think that 5 (out of 6) sections support our contention that
>> deep-orbit electrons are the theoretical basis for cold fusion…
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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