Jed wrote about the Mizuno reactor wall temperature:
“”Here's the problem. The Ni mesh reactant is right up against the inside wall. If the experiment works, the mesh gets hot, and the portion of the wall just outside the mesh gets hot. Significantly hotter than the rest of the outside wall, or the ends of reactor. That would be difficult to model, I think. It complicates matters.” Modeling temperatures in a metal object is old hat. The reactor vessel would be easy to model IMHO. Such modeling would add to the understanding of the air cooling and identify if any heat is being generated in the metal of the reactor vessel as a result of unexpected reactions adding or subtracting energy to the metal of the reactor vessel. Validation of any thermal model would be substantial with information from both the dummy reactor and the LENR reactor. You cannot have too many thermocouples for a validation from my experience--complications be damned. If the Ni mesh is the source of heat from an LENR reaction, then the contact between the mesh and the reactor wall at any spot will be a factor in the temperature of the mesh. An ultrasonic examination of such contacts over the entire reactor/mesh interface would be desirable to facilitate modeling to determine mesh temperatures, Temperature gradients in the mesh would likely cause changes in the mesh/reactor wall contact, substantially influencing the resulting temperature. The same issues would apply to the dimensional stability of the heating wire. Mizuno should specify the details associated with the mesh/reactor wall contact as well as the details associated with the heating wire contact. Bob Cook ________________________________ From: Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 5:04:26 PM To: Vortex Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mizuno presentation at ICCF-21 Alberto De Souza <alberto.investi...@gmail.com<mailto:alberto.investi...@gmail.com>> wrote: I would like to suggest a setup for the replication of Misuno’s results. In this setup we would have two reactors operating side-by-side at the same time: one active and one dummy . . . Finally, thermocouples would monitor the temperature in the external metal surface of both reactors. A significant temperature difference between the reactors would demonstrate that there is anomalous heat. Someone else suggested that. Here is what I wrote in response: I do not think this would be a good idea. Mizuno has found large differences in the temperature from one part of the reactor wall to another. He uses air flow calorimetry because it is not affected such temperature variations. You do have to measure the reactor wall temperature, because that tells you a great deal about the reaction, but I do not think it would work well for calorimetry. If you want to use the wall temperature, perhaps an IR camera that measures half the reactor vessel would work. I have no experience doing that. Here's the problem. The Ni mesh reactant is right up against the inside wall. If the experiment works, the mesh gets hot, and the portion of the wall just outside the mesh gets hot. Significantly hotter than the rest of the outside wall, or the ends of reactor. That would be difficult to model, I think. It complicates matters. If you observed that the portion of the wall outside the mesh is much hotter than the rest of the cell, that would be good evidence the mesh is producing heat. An IR camera might reveal that.
