The different reactions of methanol and ethanol with micro defects on the Ni 
mesh may affect subtle resonant reactions of Ca ions left in the surface 
defects from the tap water.  Also the anions in the water may act differently 
with the alcohols during during nucleation of the CaCO3 crystals.  Florine  or 
iodine   in the water may make a substantial difference in the micro chemistry 
which forms the observed deposits of the crystalline Ca compound initially at 
the Ni interfasce.

Bob Cook



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Alan should make sure ethanol vs =methnol does not make any difference  in the 
deposition of caco3 crystals on the Ni mesh.Jed should ask Mizuno about this 
question.

Bob Cook

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/16dP_SmSP8SuQbZ7p9eGoCwf1vwJKh7KPL7NAYv7j13o/edit

Calcium as a LENR catalyst???

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 10:43 PM JonesBeene 
<jone...@pacbell.net<mailto:jone...@pacbell.net>> wrote:
Thanks Jeff –

This could be important. Limelight – as old-fashioned as it may seem at first - 
has long been claimed to have a number of optical properties which look like 
they are related to hydrino creation.

On a related topic, and looking at Fig.3 in the first cited paper, which is the 
emission spectra of calcium sulfate, the peak is at 580 nm.

Coincidentally (or not) the palladium optical anomaly where the metal switches 
sharply from photon reflector to perfect absorber is at 590 nm. That would only 
be relevant if calcium carbonate has its peak at about the same value.

There are a number of reasons to think the Mizuno breakthrough relates more to 
Mills’ theory than to LENR.

Jones


From: Jeff Driscoll<mailto:jef...@gmail.com>

and calcium oxide is a candoluminescent material where limelight is given off 
when hydrogen is exposed to the material at high temperature:

http://zhydrogen.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Candoluminescence-of-cave-gypsum.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXl6H7G6BMU

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limelight

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 9:26 PM Jones Beene 
<jone...@pacbell.net<mailto:jone...@pacbell.net>> wrote:
For those who have not carefully followed Mills' work on dense hydrogen 
(hydrino) - calcium is listed as a favored catalyst. This could be important 
(or not) in the context of the recent Mizuno breakthrough ... certainly it has 
not been mentioned before but perhaps it should be (at least listed as a 
possibility) due to a few other related details.

The Rydberg level for Ca is the fifth - 1/5 as it is inverted and notably 
calcium is the one of the few for this level of shrinkage. There is 
complementary catalysis with the other potential catalysts present, since there 
is palladium - first level, oxygen/carbonate ion - 2nd level, nickel 7th and 
11th and now calcium in the middle - so that there is a deepening progression 
which could set up a cascade of some kind.

If one is not tied down to any particular M.O. or theory - then this spread of 
catalysis values could be relevant in the context of Alan Goldwater's new 
report on his early stage effort at replication where he finds calcium:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16dP_SmSP8SuQbZ7p9eGoCwf1vwJKh7KPL7NAYv7j13o/edit

Really nice insight by Alan.



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Jeff Driscoll
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