Ethanol is usually available in the US only as denatured Ethanol, even as "reagent grade". The additives are usually Methanol and Isopropyl, at up to 10% by volume. For that reason, I have not done the test using pure Ethanol, and we don't know what Mizuno used anyway. I did confirm that CaCO3 is insoluble in alcohols. I have also added a reference in my document related to the complex ionic chemistry of CaCO3 in aqueous solution.

Regarding your second comment, note that Methanol is not added to the water soak solution, but is only used as a final rinse following the soak at 90°C, as specified by Mizuno. Such final rinsing is often done in chemical processes to remove residual water.

AlanG

On 7/31/2019 9:06 AM, [email protected] wrote:

Alan should make sure ethanol vs =methnol does not make any difference  in the deposition of caco3 crystals on the Ni mesh.Jed should ask Mizuno about this question.

Bob Cook

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*From:* Axil Axil <[email protected]>
*Sent:* Monday, July 29, 2019 9:15:19 PM
*To:* vortex-l <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Calcium as a Mills catalyst
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16dP_SmSP8SuQbZ7p9eGoCwf1vwJKh7KPL7NAYv7j13o/edit

Calcium as a LENR catalyst???

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 10:43 PM JonesBeene <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Thanks Jeff –

    This could be important. Limelight – as old-fashioned as it may
    seem at first - has long been claimed to have a number of optical
    properties which look like they are related to hydrino creation.

    On a related topic, and looking at Fig.3 in the first cited paper,
    which is the emission spectra of calcium sulfate, the peak is at
    580 nm.

    Coincidentally (or not) the palladium optical anomaly where the
    metal switches sharply from photon reflector to perfect absorber
    is at 590 nm. That would only be relevant if calcium carbonate has
    its peak at about the same value.

    There are a number of reasons to think the Mizuno breakthrough
    relates more to Mills’ theory than to LENR.

    Jones

    *From: *Jeff Driscoll <mailto:[email protected]>

    and calcium oxide is a candoluminescent material where limelight
    is given off when hydrogen is exposed to the material at high
    temperature:

    
http://zhydrogen.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Candoluminescence-of-cave-gypsum.pdf


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXl6H7G6BMU

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limelight

    On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 9:26 PM Jones Beene <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        For those who have not carefully followed Mills' work on dense
        hydrogen (hydrino) - calcium is listed as a favored catalyst.
        This could be important (or not) in the context of the recent
        Mizuno breakthrough ... certainly it has not been mentioned
        before but perhaps it should be (at least listed as a
        possibility) due to a few other related details.

        The Rydberg level for Ca is the fifth - 1/5 as it is inverted
        and notably calcium is the one of the few for this level of
        shrinkage. There is complementary catalysis with the other
        potential catalysts present, since there is palladium - first
        level, oxygen/carbonate ion - 2nd level, nickel 7th and 11th
        and now calcium in the middle - so that there is a deepening
        progression which could set up a cascade of some kind.

        If one is not tied down to any particular M.O. or theory -
        then this spread of catalysis values could be relevant in the
        context of Alan Goldwater's new report on his early stage
        effort at replication where he finds calcium:

        
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16dP_SmSP8SuQbZ7p9eGoCwf1vwJKh7KPL7NAYv7j13o/edit

        Really nice insight by Alan.


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    Jeff Driscoll
    617-290-1998


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