Another question for Jurg is whether or not the SO(4) theory provides a stable 
physical structure for higher mass isotopes—for example, Ni, Fe and other 
nuclear species showing up in LENR experiments?

The thought that generates this question is the idea that a  collection of 
nucleons making up a heavy isotope may not all be subject to the same 
attractive force at the same time.  Some may be loosely  held depending upon 
their respective position in three dimensional space of a particular isotope 
with its orientation dependent upon the direction of its over all magnetic 
dipole.

As I suggest earlier in this thread, the nuclear weak interaction is really a 
magnetic dipole attractive force of all the constituent elementary 
particles—electrons, positrons and neutrinos.

This brings up another question for Jurg:  What does SO(4) physics say about 
neutrinos and their spin and angular momentum?

Bob Cook



Bob Cook

From: Jürg Wyttenbach<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 7:00 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Strange things keep turning up....

It is interesting how many fantasies are developed around SM framework that so 
far has no clue what generates the weak force and how to measure it.
In SO(4) physics the force coefficient (1FC) for the weak force is exactly 
defined and allows to calculate the correct electron/electron spin pairing 
energy and also one coupling orbit of deuterium and much more.

The generation of a di-neutron from protons is bare nonsense and absurd fantasy 
as this would need an input energy of 782keV/neutron. The other story we (SO(4) 
physics) can exactly calculate is the H*-H* bond that in some nuclear reaction 
can add like a double neutron. But the underlying LENR reaction is far more 
complex than the SM can imagine.

We have perfect spectral measurements of such a reaction which looks like 
adding a double neutron.

In a few years LENR will be the dominant field of nuclear physics and people 
interested in the standard model have to listen the history channel.

J.W.


Am 19.12.19 um 04:14 schrieb 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>:
>From the Abstract of the reference:
“These reactions involve the weak force (Feynman Diagrams are shown), but they 
take place in simple electrochemical systems that are normally thought of in 
terms of the electromagnetic forces only. The combined influence of the four 
isotope effects explains thousands of, what were considered, anomalous 
observations by top electrochemical researchers. The newly described 
mechanistic effects involve a very important and almost forgotten intermediate 
(the di-neutron) and may even involve unique safety concerns.”

It certainly suggests that the “weak force” is really an EM force between 
nucleons—i.e., protons and neutrons or deuterons, as has been suggested by 
Hatt, Stubbs and many others… between electrons and positrons making up 
nucleons and resulting magnetic dipoles that cause an attraction between 
nucleons.

ITS NOT NEW!!

1  Bob Cook

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From: Jones Beene<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 8:32 AM
To: vortex<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [Vo]:Strange things keep turning up

This mystery reference appeared in a recent search.

None of the usual players and the impression given is that the topic is 
something new... WTF?


Hydrogen and deuterium isotope effects beyond the electromagnetic 
force<https://www.mendeley.com/catalogue/hydrogen-deuterium-isotope-effects-beyond-electromagnetic-force/>



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Hydrogen and deuterium isotope effects beyond the electromagnetic force

Cheryl D. Stevenson

(2018) Stevenson, Davis. International Journal of Hydrogen Energy. A mechanism 
is presented concerning electroly...







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