In reply to  Jonathan Berry's message of Wed, 13 Apr 2022 01:11:30 +1200:
Hi,
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>What would it take for a breakthrough in science?

Most people are instinctively afraid of what they don't understand, so they 
ignore it, and hope it will just go away.
This is especially true if acceptance implies upsetting their entire world view.
Suggestion: Introduce it as a toy. Toys are something harmless given to 
children to help them become accustomed to life
in the real world, so people automatically accept toys as harmless, because 
that's what they have experienced all their
lives.
As long as the toy works, and is novel, everyone will want one, and eventually 
mainstream science will get around to
investigating.

>
>When I run through the scenarios it is pretty depressing!
>
>There are people who move manifest "Chi" type energy either with their body
>or with technology (pyramids, orgone accumulators, orgonite).
>This cannot be discounted by science, but it can be ignored.
>My own coils and image designs have been felt by people who have had no
>knowledge (not placebo) but no one cares.
>And I have found which cup of 10 cups has the coil placed under it, but no
>one cares.  Cannot be explained away but most on even this list won't even
>give it a moment.
>
>So demonstration of a sensation that many (but not everyone) will feel
>isn't going to cut it, maybe if it was compellingly strong for 99%, but not
>much less than that.
>
>So we also have many people who have demonstrated Free Energy, Antigravity,
>"Cold fusion", and in the whole these cannot be fully debunked.
>However replication is spott at best (often it seems like winning lottery
>odds) and the true mechanisms aren't really understood (these two facts are
>related of course).
>
>So bleeding edge indeed, technology mankind can reach to the stars with is
>left to languish.
>
>These technologies aren't fitting in with the prefered models of science,
>they aren't favored by those with the money, they are at odds with politics
>and are at odds almost philosophically with much of the world.
>
>So what will it take?
>
>If a device that produces an effect is expensive or difficult to reproduce,
>too few will, even if those who do reproduce it are successful so what?
>And one or two poor effort reproductions that fail will throw cold water on
>others who otherwise might.
>
>If a device provides an anomaly and needs exotic meters or such, again that
>is going to lead to too few who verify it.
>
>Maybe if a device is really cheap and simple to reproduce and provides a
>readily observed clearly anomalous effect it could do something...
>But to be honest as long as there is neither a mass of interested people
>not interested people with money and or the right positions within
>physics...
>
>I am not really sure how humanity is going to advance!
>
>This doesn't just relate to my research, this relates to every possible
>technology Vortex was created to discuss or further.
>
>I am not trying to push my designs here, but if anyone wants to fight off
>incredulity (or is someone who has felt energy from my previous designs)
>then:
>https://www.reddit.com/r/Aetheric_Engineering/comments/ty1j4f/latest_poll/
>Generally it is about 50% feel something, and again no one has been able to
>explain away the multiple events that utterly disprove any conventional
>explanation.
>
>But be it my research or anything else, there is a massive barrier that
>except for making something useful obvious and cheap and easy to make. or
>some angel investor or lottery win...
>I just don't see anything changing!
>
>I get it when things aren't provable, but when they are how do so many
>ignore results?
>Then again, I see the same occurring with natural/alternative medicine even
>when the success rates are high.
>Or indeed reasons to avoid vaccines that were rushed experimental novel and
>based on the toxic part of the virus and has details they wanted secret for
>75 years...  That still many took
>Or reasons to question how a building could fall at free fall
>speeds through still standing structure as though it offered the same
>structural resistance as air.
>
>And while there is no obvious solution to the alien/ufo subject that makes
>coherent sense, when respected scientists consider the Fermi Paradox they
>generally utterly deny the absolute masses of evidence we have for aliens
>as though it doesn't even deserve a few seconds to discount.
>
>We have a seriously strange world if you choose to look at it objectively.
>
>
>Jonathan
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