A Bessler Wheel in the form of a toy. Interestingly, Laithwaite came close to solving this with his gyro demonstration at the RI. May the strain be with you.
On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 at 23:00, Jonathan Berry <jonathanberry3...@gmail.com> wrote: > Interesting idea. > > And while I don't think there are many things that could be introduced as > a toy (Otis T. Carr's patent aside) ... > Or maybe a perpetual motion toy, albeit if that was cheap enough to be for > kids it would be a toy adults would want even more (executive toys). > > I think that images that manifested a tangible energy-like phenomena that > kids could feel could appeal to at least some parents. > > Of course the designs will have to be less controversial that the top > image which is a swastika (happily not just a Nazi thing and in no way > resembles the Nazi version). > > Of course not all kids can feel the phenomena any more than all adults, > but perhaps the percentage is higher as kids haven't been so heavily > indoctrinated against such ideas yet. > > Maybe at any rate a book for kids and one for adults could be a way to go. > > Maybe a colouring book. > > > > > On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 at 09:08, Robin <mixent...@aussiebroadband.com.au> > wrote: > >> In reply to Jonathan Berry's message of Wed, 13 Apr 2022 01:11:30 +1200: >> Hi, >> [snip] >> >What would it take for a breakthrough in science? >> >> Most people are instinctively afraid of what they don't understand, so >> they ignore it, and hope it will just go away. >> This is especially true if acceptance implies upsetting their entire >> world view. >> Suggestion: Introduce it as a toy. Toys are something harmless given to >> children to help them become accustomed to life >> in the real world, so people automatically accept toys as harmless, >> because that's what they have experienced all their >> lives. >> As long as the toy works, and is novel, everyone will want one, and >> eventually mainstream science will get around to >> investigating. >> >> > >> >When I run through the scenarios it is pretty depressing! >> > >> >There are people who move manifest "Chi" type energy either with their >> body >> >or with technology (pyramids, orgone accumulators, orgonite). >> >This cannot be discounted by science, but it can be ignored. >> >My own coils and image designs have been felt by people who have had no >> >knowledge (not placebo) but no one cares. >> >And I have found which cup of 10 cups has the coil placed under it, but >> no >> >one cares. Cannot be explained away but most on even this list won't >> even >> >give it a moment. >> > >> >So demonstration of a sensation that many (but not everyone) will feel >> >isn't going to cut it, maybe if it was compellingly strong for 99%, but >> not >> >much less than that. >> > >> >So we also have many people who have demonstrated Free Energy, >> Antigravity, >> >"Cold fusion", and in the whole these cannot be fully debunked. >> >However replication is spott at best (often it seems like winning lottery >> >odds) and the true mechanisms aren't really understood (these two facts >> are >> >related of course). >> > >> >So bleeding edge indeed, technology mankind can reach to the stars with >> is >> >left to languish. >> > >> >These technologies aren't fitting in with the prefered models of science, >> >they aren't favored by those with the money, they are at odds with >> politics >> >and are at odds almost philosophically with much of the world. >> > >> >So what will it take? >> > >> >If a device that produces an effect is expensive or difficult to >> reproduce, >> >too few will, even if those who do reproduce it are successful so what? >> >And one or two poor effort reproductions that fail will throw cold water >> on >> >others who otherwise might. >> > >> >If a device provides an anomaly and needs exotic meters or such, again >> that >> >is going to lead to too few who verify it. >> > >> >Maybe if a device is really cheap and simple to reproduce and provides a >> >readily observed clearly anomalous effect it could do something... >> >But to be honest as long as there is neither a mass of interested people >> >not interested people with money and or the right positions within >> >physics... >> > >> >I am not really sure how humanity is going to advance! >> > >> >This doesn't just relate to my research, this relates to every possible >> >technology Vortex was created to discuss or further. >> > >> >I am not trying to push my designs here, but if anyone wants to fight off >> >incredulity (or is someone who has felt energy from my previous designs) >> >then: >> > >> https://www.reddit.com/r/Aetheric_Engineering/comments/ty1j4f/latest_poll/ >> >Generally it is about 50% feel something, and again no one has been able >> to >> >explain away the multiple events that utterly disprove any conventional >> >explanation. >> > >> >But be it my research or anything else, there is a massive barrier that >> >except for making something useful obvious and cheap and easy to make. or >> >some angel investor or lottery win... >> >I just don't see anything changing! >> > >> >I get it when things aren't provable, but when they are how do so many >> >ignore results? >> >Then again, I see the same occurring with natural/alternative medicine >> even >> >when the success rates are high. >> >Or indeed reasons to avoid vaccines that were rushed experimental novel >> and >> >based on the toxic part of the virus and has details they wanted secret >> for >> >75 years... That still many took >> >Or reasons to question how a building could fall at free fall >> >speeds through still standing structure as though it offered the same >> >structural resistance as air. >> > >> >And while there is no obvious solution to the alien/ufo subject that >> makes >> >coherent sense, when respected scientists consider the Fermi Paradox they >> >generally utterly deny the absolute masses of evidence we have for aliens >> >as though it doesn't even deserve a few seconds to discount. >> > >> >We have a seriously strange world if you choose to look at it >> objectively. >> > >> > >> >Jonathan >> If no one clicked on ads companies would stop paying for them. :) >> >>
