Michel Jullian wrote. > > I am not going to fight with you, as I said it is YOUR thought experiment :) > One needs to avoid fights this close to the full moon. :-)
Your points are worthy of serious thought, Michel. However, one could "sample" the (arriving electrons?) by sequentially switching in and charging capacitors, then measuring their potential, or keeping a single capacitor grounded for about 0.3 seconds/meter of vertical height. > > But supposing you were right on this point, would it hurt to also know the > velocities and to have a quantitative measurement rather than a qualitative > one? > If there is any qualitative indication that gravity repels electrons, verification would mandate the eperiments that you suggest. In the interim, a meter or two of 4 inch PVC sewer pipe, a vaccum pump capable of less than 50 millitorr, and some home brew ingenuity. :-) Thanks for the constructive feedback. When I argue with myself, invariably I always end up agreeing with myself. Fred > Michel > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frederick Sparber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 3:14 AM > Subject: Re: Electrogravity & Proton Repulsion of Electrons > > > > It really doesn't matter what their velocities are, if enough for those > > that arrive and get trapped in the Faraday cup collector charge a 0.1 > > picofarad > > capacitor enough to get a measurable voltage off it with a DVM. > > That should strongly suggest that gravity repels electrons. > > > > Fred > > > > > >> [Original Message] > >> From: Michel Jullian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Date: 4/14/2006 5:22:38 PM > >> Subject: Re: Electrogravity & Proton Repulsion of Electrons > >> > >> > If no such charge or current is detected, then gravity attracts > >> > electrons. > >> > >> No Fred I disagree with your conclusion, there could be no electron > > arriving > >> at 0.3s simply because they all had sufficient velocity to arrive > >> earlier. > >> Or there could be some, but gravity force is classically downwards and > > they > >> were about to fall back > >> > >> If you don't know the initial velocities you can't conclude, hence my > >> suggestion to use the "volunteers" whose initial velocity we know very > >> precisely (1/2*m*v0^2=h*nu-W) and can make as small as desired with a > >> retarding electrode (1/2*m*v0^2=h*nu-W-e*V), and whose flight time will > >> depend on the direction of gravity. > >> > >> Michel > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Frederick Sparber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "vortex-l" <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 9:59 PM > >> Subject: Re: Electrogravity & Proton Repulsion of Electrons > >> > >> > >> > Starting from scratch, Michel. > >> > > >> > Attractive forces acting on the electron at or near the earth's > >> > surface. > >> > > >> > 1, At the Bohr Radius 8.24e-8 newton > >> > 2, Attached to an H2O molecule 6.4e-11 newtons > >> > 3, The earth's fair weather field 2.0e-17 newtons > >> > 4, The earth's gravity field attractive 8.9e-30 newtons, > >> > 5, or could it be gravity repelled 8.9e-30 newtons? > >> > > >> > In the latter case, if it is released in an evacuated vertical > >> > tube the direction of force, 4, or 5, can be determined, provided > >> > the tube is virtually free of extraneous electrical fields. > >> > > >> > Shining a pulse of light on a Cs-CsO film on a silver-plated > >> > foil placed on the bottom of the tube and looking for > >> > arrival of the electrons about 0.3 seconds or so later > >> > (3.0 meters/sec or so) using a faraday cup tied to an electrometer > >> > capable of femto-coulomb or femto-ampere currents > >> > (and the LED or other Photon source) at the top. > >> > > >> > If no such charge or current is detected, then gravity attracts > >> > electrons. > >> > > >> > Fred > > > > > >
