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Fred,

It is probably a waste of time to continue to speculate on the Joe
Cell, given that it would be so very easy to demonstrate one
scientifically  - IF - it were really a true energy anomaly.

Not that you and I have any disdain to speculate on the
improbable. Yet after many years we still have not one single
'bona fide' report from a University verifying that an ICE can be
driven by a Joe Cell (without being fueled by the oil in the
crankcase - which is what is happening in most of the anecdotes).

I hear they do have some pretty good Universities down in Oz and
certainly at least one non-football-oriented Technical Institute
is located in Southern California.

"That concentric-cylinder set of "electrically floating"
electrodes between the cathode and outer anode is a natural for
Electrical Double Layer ZPE energy extraction and doing strange
things (a Fermi sea tsunami?) to the argon that can slip down
through the Liquid- SS metal interface when the cell sees
atmospheric pressure."

Yes - if the Joe Cell is making either a longer-lived "molecular
muonium" or alternatively hydrinos - then very likely some argon
is involved in the process and it would be advantageous to add
more (probably). BTW - bet you didn't know that water alone can
concentrate argon from the 1% to about a 40/40/20  mix
(argon/oxygen/nitrogen). Here's some factoids from a previous
post:

Factoids:

Argon is the most common and cheapest of the noble gases (~1% of
air). The net quantity of argon in air has actually increased
since the  Earth was formed because radioactive potassium turns
into argon as  it decays - and not that much argon escapes into
space as it is less volatile  than O2 or N2. Not only that, solar
neutrinos can convert the Cl  in salt-water to argon. This is one
of the ways solar neutrinos are identified.

Argon can be extracted from air easily by fractional distillation,
and when using the exhaust in the final Linde-process stage to
cool the pressurized bulk air -  it is energy efficient to
extract.  Machines that do this are occasionally for  sale on
eBay for a few thousand dollars, With your own "factory" as many
welder own - the cost of large quantities is 'de minimis' but gas
suppliers often get a huge markup for it.

So-called "heli-arc" welding is a technique in which an inert gas
is blown around the welding tip to protect the hot metal from
oxidation. Though named after helium, actually it is done using
argon, because argon is a hundred times cheaper in bulk and just
as inert.

Argon is 240% more soluble in water than nitrogen, about the same as oxygen. Although I have never seen it mentioned , utilizing
this property in a continuous process of vacuum distillation of
seawater - would seen that this would be a way to concentrate
Argon substantially before fractional distillation, lowering the
cost even more. Seawater in a vacuum should give up a mix of
40/40/20 argon/oxygen/nitrogen but could the vacuum processing of
seawater  be less energy intensive than just starting with 99
times more air than you need?

Argon is considered to be very inert and is not known  to form
true chemical compounds, as do krypton, xenon, and radon.
Naturally occurring argon is a mixture of three isotopes. Twelve
other radioactive isotopes are known to exist. Here is detail info
on isotopes - and the color spectrum (mostly sky-blue when
ionized):
http://chemlab.pc.maricopa.edu/periodic/Ar.html

The muon is know to have an anomalous magnetic moment. A
difference between predicted and measured values is an indication
of physics beyond the Standard Model.

Argon is said by R. Mills to be among the best catalysts for
hydrino formation. This is another reason why a plasma of deuterium and argon should have anomalous properties. But because these gases are commonly used in industry for such things as surface etching of semiconductors, and with no neutrons being noticed, this sets a limit on reactivity which is in no way even approached by the Joe Cell.

Again, until this device is proven otherwise, the best scenario for why-and-how some older engines can run on the Joe Cell - even a closed Joe cell is clear - they are being fueled by the oil in the crankcase - and old engines with loose-rings will burn a lot of oil - which is what is happening in most of the anecdotes.

The only test I know of where an engine was taken-in for semi-scientific exhaust monitoring showed the same level of exhaust pollutants including CO, as any normal engine would even thought the 'petrol' line was shut - that to me is an indication of the real modality in these anecdotes - oil burning. BTW this test is available on video from an Aussie TV station but it was not the Joe Cell per se - but a close cousin, perhaps inspired by the same kind of trickster (or at worse : con-man) mentality.

Jones


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