Steven,

I've heard about the Papp story for years, and Feynman's role in the matter as well. Pardon my ignorance on this matter. Is anyone attempting to recreate the original conditions of this model,

Yes. Google: Ken-Rauen or Ken-Rauen Papp. He had some funding at one time, but was not successful (yet).

...or is it assumed that the actual speculated "physics" of Papp engine so grossly misunderstood that any attempt to build one doomed to fail utterly?

IMHO this has been Ken's problem in replication: he is selectively relying on "some" or most of the Papp story, and rejecting the rest. He may have rejected the wrong parts... or it may have been a total fraud.

Papp was definitely - and without question a notorious con-man and a paranoid liar. Let's not mince words. He was also gifted in some ways, and a creative thinker with "inventor's disease" as diagnosed by BillB. This engine-scenario could have been totally fraudulent - or he could have started out on a fraudulent basis (like his high speed submarine) - and then gotten very, very lucky, or he could have been channeling Jules Verne <g>.

This has happened before- i.e. where an intended scam turns out to be a serendipitous discovery.

However, if it is correct to assume that heavy-Argon is the active gas, then it is a whole new ball-game and we do not need that kind of specialized engine at all. Just some re-designed plumbing on any old ICE.

Back a few months ago, I thought the active agent might be the hydrino, in the Papp engine. I had a brief exchange with Ken and he rejected that notion and others. I came away with the feeling that he is not very open to alternatives, and that his funding has run dry. Hopefully that is wrong on both counts.

The present notion of "Spargone" (electroniumized-Argon) is even further out. Check that: waaaay-further-out

...but today it sounds very intriguing.

Who knows?

Maybe Feynman and Papp have hooked-up in Purgatory and are trying to expiate their sins - (to get into a higher realm? i.e. a ticket-to-ride) by combining their odd-couple resources <g> and the only way to do this is to channel this info to those who are "listening"... Maybe Fred and I are so close to joining them, that we are tuned into this odd-couple message-from afar <big G>

IOW... the message (sermon) is: do not believe anything you hear from the Vo-pulpit on a Sunday.

Jones

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