--- Grimer wrote: >> distilled water-------- 80.0 > I certainly never realised that water had such a high permittivity.
The key there is "distilled" - as even ppm quatities of ions change the situation drastically - so it is not that simple in practice to pull it off [plasma ultra-capacitor]. But it is another reason why argon might be the carrier of choice, in any future implementation of a plasma-capacitor effect - since it would add so little in the way of possible ionization. BTW in previous post there was reference to a Naudin experiment - which is NOT the BingoFuel setup - but instead it was the Pantone replication - which uses 80% water 20% gasoline as a fuel. That experiment was mentioned only in reference to the unusual plumbing - channeling some of the exhaust back to the intake. It was mentioned only by way of analogy. I think the best analogy for this: the "sine qua non" of the concept - which is a higher-order breakdown of aether - is possibly to be found in nature itself - lightning. Of course, few in the mainstream have seriously suggested that lightning could be at least partly non-conservative... except on vortex, of course <g>. If there was any real evidence for an "aether breakdown" of this kind - especially in nature - it would probably make the PappaJo concept 'fundable'... even as far out as it seems to be at first glance. It certainly goes a way towards explaining some of the arc-glow-discharge anomalies which have been reported (PAGD, etc). It might even explain why the 'plasma spark plug': http://www.lanl.gov/opportunities/techtransfer/dsp_technology.php?id=551 has been said to more than double the noamal combustion efficiency of an ICE. Even the inventor/authors of this and other similar plasma plug concepts think ithe improvement is due to "more complete combustion" when in truth the effect may not be related to combustion at all and may operate via an aether-breakdown and partial "jerk". Irony of ironies - the effect may even be hindered by gasoline combustion - and be optimized with zero chemical fuel instead of the present assumptions. Jones
