With a P-out/P-in of 4.0 for the Helmholtz/Joe Cell, the 54% Otto Cycle or 64% Diesel Cycle can allow "Self-Sustained" shaft power output without major tooling Jones.
http://members.aol.com/engware/calc3.htm BTW. There was a restaurant in Clinton ran by a little old lady where Don Ernst (RCA then Thermacore) and I really enjoyed the homespun atmosphere and cooking, while we dissected Potassium-Argon filled Nickel heat pipes in 1969-70. Fred > [Original Message] > From: Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Date: 5/17/2006 9:42:54 AM > Subject: Towards an Ar-ICE ... > > I hope that Fred's Helmholtz-optimized cell works to self-power an > ICE, or at least can increase the efficiency of gasoline > combustion. The simple addition of some hydrogen should increase > the efficiency of combustion in any ICE, since the flame speed of > hydrogen is so high - and if a lower voltage electrolysis results > in some peroxides - all the better. > > As I understand the situation, Fred's thinking on the underlying > modality of this experiment is that the lower effective voltage > and surface interaction across the many plates does not produce H2 > and O2 but instead produces hydronium and mixed hydroxyl based > oxidizers. This would imply a short "window of opportunity" before > recombination - so the mix must be used PDQ, no? > > If total self-power is the goal, and this lower voltage > Helmholtz-layer system does not accomplish that lofty aim - then > there are a range of combination-type experimental alternatives - > all of which are much more expensive to attempt. > > IMHO, the options of highest probability for success (depending on > whose logic you employ) - that is, which would be moving towards > the next logical step of "zero" fossil fuel, using both an > optimized Helmholtz-layer type of low-voltage electrolysis cell - > which has gotten close to the goal - but not to total self-power. > > If cost were no object: > > 1) closed-cycle with argon gas as the medium (combination: > Laumann/Papp/Joe/Klein) > > or if Bill Gates comes along with his checkbook: > > 2) closed-cycle, as above, with argon as a medium but fired by a > high-powered UV laser in order to get the Argon into the maximum > "efficient radiation" regime. > > This is a big improvement over the basic Laumann idea ... if ... > indeed there does exist in nature, a small proportion of > "active-argon," which is being called "special-K". If it is there, > then it exists because solar hydrinos are converting potassium in > the oceans of earth into an erstaz-argon - and this has been going > on for billions of years. > > ...or if 'Sam' comes along, the generous Uncle offering the > resources of a national lab, and given that the experiments above > are partially successful, then we: > > 3) attempt to "enrich" the Argon in the active component, > special-K. > > This would be done by "Calutron" type methods if nothing else > comes along. > > The Ford hydrogen powered ICE has shown that you can get from 25% > Carnot efficiency to ~45% by just a simple fuel substitution. It > is mind-boggling to me that the Laumann engine has been lost and > forgotten - given that it can possibly squeeze out 40% more energy > from hydrogen than even the Ford Focus. > > Even so, that is a long way from self-power ... unless that is, > there is "something" very special about special-K > > Jones > > BTW, on the Wiki entry for the Calutron: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calutron > > ....there is a picture of women operating the machines at Y-12 > during the war. There are many anecdotal stories about this > situation in the folklore of East Tennessee, but one of the more > interesting ones is that - due to the need for copper during the > war (for ammunition) - the coils of the Calutrons could not be made > of that commodity - as no one was sure that the machine would work > as claimed - but we damn-well knew that bullets worked... > > ...consequently - almost the entire National supply of pure Silver > bullion from Ft. Knox and elsewhere - was "borrowed" by the > "Clinton Engineering Works" (false front) and then extruded and > drawn into magnet-wire to be used in the giant coils of the > Calutrons. > > - these machines were just glorified mass-specs-on steroids, which > went from blueprint to actual model with no prototype, and one can > imagine that the rural workers, mostly Tobacco farmers too old for > combat, who were installing them - must have thought that the world > of science was a very mysterious and magical place.