If I could only stay ahead of the Jones the Cheshire Cat of Vortex. :-)
"The Cheshire Cat is a fictional cat appearing in Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland. It appears and disappears at will, engaging Alice in amusing but sometimes vexing conversation. The cat often points out philosophical points that annoy Alice."
BTW. Check out these Nickel Foam sheets that could serve as high
surface area electrodes.
We used them as "wicks" in liquid metal heat pipes.
Regards.
"Alice"
----- Original Message -----From: Frederick SparberTo: vortex-lSent: 5/29/2006 2:14:00 AMSubject: Re: Helmholtz Layer Metal-Water Interface, Joe Cell Etc>> OTOH, on Nickel and/or Stainless Steel surfaces that have been> exposed to atmospheric O2 the O2 dissociates into bound> O atoms ( 2 * 55.39 = 110.78 kcal/mole free energy)> and adsorbed water dissociates to bound H + OH.>Typically Raney Nickel has a surface area of 100 Square Metersper Gram.A few kilograms (a few hundred thousand Meter^2) of Raney Nickel in anickel mesh (wirecloth) basket soaked with hot water heated off the enginewith part of the engine intake air flowing up through the Raney Nickel bedshould make an interesting water burner.H-OH - 56.687OH + 8.18HO-OH - 28.78H +48.58H2 0.00O + 55.39O2 0.00H + OH + E = H-OHE = - 56.69 + 8.18 +48.58 = 0.0732 H-OH + O2 + E = 4 OHE = 2 (56.687) + 4 ( 8.18)E = 113.374 + 32.72E = 146.0944 OH + E = 2 HO-OHE = 2 (-28.78) + 4 (8.18)E = - 24.842 HO-OH + E = 2 H-OH + O2E = 2 (-56.687) + 2 (28.78)E = - 113.374 + 28.78 + 28.78E = - 55.814OTOH, on Nickel and/or Stainless Steel surfaces that have beenexposed to atmospheric O2 the O2 dissociates into boundO atoms ( 2 * 55.39 = 110.78 kcal/mole free energy)and adsorbed water dissociates to bound H + OH.See around pages 305 and up:Then 2 H-OH + 2 O = 4 OH2 H-OH + 2 O + E = 4 OHE = 113.37 - 110.78 +32.72E = 35.31

