Harry Veeder wrote:

It was my perception ( as a non-expert) that excess heat meant Q>1.0.
I also think this is what your average person would regard as "excess
heat". This is suppose to be the "promise" of CF is it not?

With some techniques such as gas loading, cold fusion produces an infinite ratio: zero input, output only. In hot fusion this would be called a "fully ignited reaction." You cannot get more promising than that.


> It would be easy to increase
> the Q by reducing input power, using conventional electrochemical
> techniques such as moving the anode and cathode closer together.
> People have not done that because there is no point.

NO POINT???!!!!

No point. As Martin Fleischmann says this is no better than stamp collecting.

The purpose of the research is to discover how to control the reaction and how to produce a large volume of nuclear active material in the metal. Results from the U.S. Navy and the Spring8 National Synchrotron lab prove conclusively that only a tiny fraction of the material in most samples is activated. Once researchers learn how to activate a larger fraction without blowing themselves to smithereens, the input output ratio will take care of itself.

Improving this ratio by changing electrochemical techniques is a useless, dead-end stunt. It can only improve the ratio to a limited extent, probably never enough to produce a 1:5 ratio, which is what you need to make a self-sustaining motor. On the other hand, once you learn to control the reaction you can easily make the ratio 1:10, or 1:100 or probably 1:100,00 which is approximately the ratio Mizuno and Oriani achieved with gas-phase proton conductors.

I doubt that liquid electrochemistry will ever lead to a useful form of cold fusion in any case.

Improving the ratio with electrochemical techniques probably does little to improve calorimetry, and it complicates the experiment and interferes with other aspects of it.

- Jed


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