Jones -
I regretfully never saw the car run - I examined it extensively as a "non
Moving" item
he had the injectors on it and showed me on dismantled - they were works of
art but again nothing worked and we allways got excuses and reasons why he
could not show.
My contract with him was to build 2 "proof of concept" machines - they were
to be Hydrogen Burners for boiler opperation ( To replace Heavy fuel Oil
units ) One of these was for European showing ( 230 volt 50hz operation ,
and the other was for USA use - 110 Volt 60 Hz etc ( They are shown on our
web site)
He was to provide the basic Mk 1 water splitting circuitry, but when we
shipped the above unit , the excuses started
So we walked.
He made extensive demonstration of the video of the car running with Charlie
Holbrook sitting on the back and Stan driving,
I felt that he had run the car on Hydrogen BUT he may have started witha
build up of gas volume and pressure and only ran for a very short distance
and at a constand speed - = very low HP - Poss as low as 10 or 12 Hp
Comments on previous posts implied that maybe he did do a Jimmy Durante -"
Found the lost cord ," but the probs seems to be he lost it again and could
not find it a second time !
Charlie Holbrook once said he saw stan run a bucket of water to gas in 5
minutes ! maybe - Maybe not.
I think the Hi volts , low amps is just a gimmick - as in fact from my
previous post , it was high current but spoken of as low current , hi volts
to impress poss. investors and interested parties.
The Hi Volt , low currect also enabled him to go for a patent if this
concept was not previously patented
Interestingly - He covered all the bases with his some 27 patents , some of
which will soon be out or nearly so.
He made a lot of money from investor and possibly sent a lot of it outside
the USA.
What was the use of the "central Electrode" in the browns gas unit ?? I seem
to have missed that point?
Rgds to all
Noel in Ireland
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jones Beene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Water-based fuel for the ICE
----- Original Message -----
From: "Noel D. Whitney"
Noel, thanks for the post. I had forgotten about your experience with
Meyer.
Looks like Stan Meyer has left a negative impression with many on vortex
who follow this sort of thing, and there is no doubt he was a huckster,
showman, and mentally ill, most likely. The larger question is - did he
stumble onto any technology which might serve to add-to or improve-on the
further advancement of the Brown's gas/ Joe Cell theme of ultra-efficient
electrolysis? How did he power a VW with it (was that a fraud, also ?)
Noel writes:
Stan made great mileage on showing how little current went to the cell ,
but the actual shown current was only the current feeding the armature of
the alternator to create the magnetic field!
the alternator was rated in the region of 80 to 100 amps at 12V DC, so
your talking about 1 to 1.2 Kw of power , relate this to the gas vol. and
the whole question changes!
Did you view the cell powering an ICE, or just producing gas? Do you think
there was zero energy anomaly in what you saw?
Another problem here seems to be that Stan had a number of different types
of cells - as his patent portfolio demonstrated. And it is clear that in
these demos, he could not always get them to work as planned. The fact
that they ever worked at all - if they did - could be a critical detail,
before writing-off the work entirely.
The most important question for moving beyond this sad chapter in the
evolution of alternative energy is: can anything Meyer did be incorporated
into the next generation of cells? Is the high voltage, low amps concept
just a gimmick?
Jones
