Jones Beene wrote:
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> Let me belabor a couple of points, raised several
> times previously, relative to supplying about 175
> million Americans with windpower (those within 100
> miles of ocean or Great Lakes).
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>   3) Liquid air (O2 or N2O enriched) is the best way
> to store wind energy
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N2O (that makes you laugh) is made by "Careful Decomposition of
Ammonium Nitrate" NH4NO3. 
NH3 that has to be used in making NH4NO3
requires Ammonia Synthesis (N2 + 3 H2 + High Pressure + energy) where
the 3 H2 comes from Electrolysis of Water at 25 Kw-Hr/LB.
The Nitric-Nitrous Acid HNO3-HNO2 comes fro reacting H2O
with NO2 which comes from Oxidizing Ammonia NH3 with
O2: 4 NH3 + O2 ----> 4 NO + 6 H2O + ~ 1. Megajoule (lost), then
more O2: 2 NO + O2 ----> 2 NO2 + 120 kJ (lost), 
then 3 NO2 +  H2O --->  2 HNO3 + NO, 
Which is a NO NO for making low  cost N2O (LOL Gas). 
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> There is no better win-win (win-wind-win) scenario in
> all of alternative energy - even the coal miners are
> happy as it gives them a way to produce much more, and
> cleaner energy from the same amount of coal. It is not
> perfect of course, but neither is anything else which
> can be implemented today without a technological
> breakthrough.
>
Reacting CO2 from the atmosphere (or existing power plants)
with Electrolysis H2 to make Methanol would be more practical for 
storage and transport. 

3 H2 + CO2 <---> H2O + CH3OH (Methanol)

Agriculture needs Ammonia NH3, Ammonium Nitrate, NH4NO3, 
and Urea made from: 2 NH3 + CO2 ----> NH2-CO-NH2 + H2O.

Fred
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