Jed,

We agree that 1 watt is all that is needed. Our own proprietary Demonstration Device designs are all low power devices, simply intended to allow interested parties to puzzle over this embryonic science. One or more are likely to rapidly be knocked off as toys by companies well known for that behavior. Youngsters will not be concerned that this technology was considered impossible by the scientific establishment.

The Coler reproductions reveal no proprietary information. We have no control or concern about the power levels. The lab at the university in the UK that is in touch with us has now confirmed that they also intend to attempt a replication. The Coler sheet on our website has had a goodly number of hits from labs all over the world, exactly as we intended. Others are probably engaged in attempts at reproduction without asking for our analysis. All to the good.

Mark


From: Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Slightly updated from the MPI website re magnetic energy extraction.
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:23:35 -0400

Mark Goldes wrote:

Firstly, many eminent scientists since the time of Dirac have proffered the view that the vacuum is an enormous source of energy . . .

If 5 million eminent scientists tied together made this assertion, it would make no difference to me. It must be demonstrated by experiment, or it cannot be believed. There is only one source of knowledge, and one standard of truth: the experiment. The replicated, high-sigma experiment, to be exact.


, not only in the form of classical photons but also and more importantly as virtual photons. Thus extracting some of this energy (and seemingly gaining energy from "nowhere") does not violate thermodynamic principles.

It sure does violate those principles. No fuel is consumed, no matter annihilated. Obviously it violates those principles, and when you deny that fact, you do nothing to enhance your credibility. You resemble a hypothetical CF scientist who says: "Yeah, we get heat from fusion with no neutrons. So what?" You must at least acknowledge that the lack of neutrons is surprising and inexplicable based on what we know about plasma fusion.


There was independent examination of the Coler device by two academic teams of Professors. They verified the excess energy and could find no evidence that the work was fraudulent.

Did anyone replicate? Without that, it does not count.


MPI has been contacted by a scientist at one of the National Laboratories who has unofficially undertaken to reproduce the 6 kW Coler generator.

Is there any reason it has to be so large? If it would be cheaper and easier to make a 1-watt version, I suggest you do that instead. 6 kW would not prove the point any more than 1-watt would.

Many people working on off-beat free energy have the strange notion that they must build on a large scale, in the kilowatt range, or they will not be believed. Actually, the opposite is true. It is far easier to confirm 1 watt than a 1 kW. One of the biggest disadvantages of the Griggs Gadget is that it is far too big and powerful to be tested accurately.

- Jed




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