Hi Terry, it seems to me this experiment can be further simplified: hold a 
paper clip underneath a magnet, and then open your fingers. The paper clip will 
rise to the magnet, therefore increasing it's gravitational potential energy 
between it's initial and final positions, thanks to the magnet.

Work is performed indeed by the magnet, but why conclude that total energy of 
the system hasn't been conserved?

Michel

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> From: Jed Rothwell 
> 
> I do not know of any experimental evidence that demonstrates 
> excess energy from magnets or springs. 
> 
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> 
> Okay, I have seen three. All involve magnetic gradients which most 
> certainly perform work. I will try, one more time, to explain the most 
> simple one: 
> 
> http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/smotidx.htm 
> 
> In this image a ball is dropped from 31 mm and from 35 mm into a curved 
> glass tube which constitutes an inclined plane. This is done with the 
> fingers of the experimenter who eats food for an energy source. The 
> second drop causes the ball to roll further up the inclined plane with 
> an increased energy of 0.424 mJ. The earth provides the kinetic energy. 
> 
> Now the experimenter replaces his fingers with a permanent magnetic 
> field and gets the same result. He places the ball at the 31 mm level 
> of the field gradient and the gradient lifts the ball to 35 mm. What 
> does the magnet eat??? 
> 
> This device demonstrates a COP of 1.133. I have personally tested 
> another magnetic gradient field device which presently operates with a 
> COP of 2.33 and will soon operate with a much higher one. I will be 
> happy to arrange for you to view the device. It is here in the 
> metropolitan area. 
> 
> Terry 
> 
>

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