At 07:28 am 20/06/2006 -0400, you wrote:
> Dear Vortex People,
>
> I admit I am not the best speller. I admit I get 
> somewhat excited and or exercised when I type fast.   
> I do not generally use of have a "spell check" program.
>
> I thank Kyle and I thank those of you who are ''lurking'' 
> and may or may not agree.
>
> My main reason for posting is to ask questions.
>
> Would someone, maybe a lurker... or not... help me to 
> help the whole of vortex to learn the basics of the 
> differences between:
>
> (A)  Theory
>
> (B)  Experimental support.... or not support .. of 
>  one or more theories.
>
> C)  Mathematical ideas, armchair expositions, and the 
> history of the basis of or for some given post or posts.


You are obviously a person full of natural curiosity
about the world, John, a curiosity that is so sadly 
lacking in today's scientists who have had grooves 
worn into their brains by too much dogmatic 
education - scientists who are by and large 
incapable of climbing out of those grooves and 
contemplating the broad uncharted vistas of the 
plateau above.

You want an exciting theory? What could be more 
exciting than a theory which stands conventional 
physics on its head and claims that materials are 
held together by external compressions, not by 
internal tensions - which claims that internal 
tensions, bonds and the like, are negations and 
no more real that the vacuum of the wifey's 
hoover.

You 
     "LIKE real world, nuts and bolts, 
      belt and suspenders engineering." 

What could be more real world than that of the 
civil engineers who are famous for wearing both 
belt and braces (in England suspenders hold up 
socks, not trousers 8-) ). 

What could be more real world than that of 
concrete and soil mechanics where the Beta-
atmosphere was conceived all those years ago. 

What could be more real than tests on 12 by 6 
inch concrete cylinders crushed in a stiffened 
1000 ton long-column test machine or squeezed 
by a simulated aether in a high pressure steel
cell.

You say you like,
 
    "the grand love of discovery." 

- then come and read the member's File Section at,

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beta-atmosphere_group/

and learn how the experiments demonstrating the 
reality of the Beta-atmosphere were developed 
surreptitiously in British government laboratories.

Learn how they were published in defiance of the 
establishment's opposition.

Learn how the ideas were put on trial in front of 
a panel of experts who were incapable of faulting 
them.

Learn how the author was the only scientist who ever 
appealed to the very top of the British Civil Service 
on the grounds that, if true, the ideas could have 
serious safety implications for prestressed structures.

You wont find anything too difficult to understand. 
You wont find any complicated mathematics - But you 
will find that you have to make a huge Gestalt switch - 
that you have to turn your present views inside out - 
that you have to leave behind ideas to which you may 
have become inordinately attached.

If you were still a student I wouldn't want to seduce 
you from the status quo in case it compromised your 
graduation or doctorate but since you seem to be past 
education, what about it?

Do you feel up to the challenge?   8-)

Cheers, 

Frank







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