Stephen A. Lawrence 
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> Kyle R. Mcallister wrote:
> > > Probably most of them I would imagine since in the course of one
> > > short e-mail you managed to misspell Vortex TWICE!
> > >
> > > "lay population of Votex" "I hope others in and of votrtex"
> >
> >  I think it is perhaps better to misspell than to populate Vortex-L
> >  with any number of oddball theories and/or speculated subatomic
> >  particles of which there is not the least bit of experimental
> >  evidence for their existence.
>
> I believe the charter for Vortex includes just such things as being "on 
> topic".
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> >  3. "Electronium"...I understand that positronium is supposed to be a
> >  bound state of a positron and an electron which is very unstable.
> >  What then is electronium? Two electrons and a positron, yielding a
> >  "thing" with mass of 3e(or p) and a net charge of -1? Evidence for
> >  this thing please? I seem to recall an experiment involving playing
> >  with the vertical drive coils of a small TV, and looking for a less
> >  deflected lineon the phosphor screen which would correspond to
> >  something with an electron's charge but higher mass. I recall also
> >  that nothing was found. If positrons are in it, the only thing I can
> >  think of is maybe doping the cathode with something that emits
> >  positrons is relatively high quantities. But who knows.
> >
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Looks like my postulated stable bound Electron-Positron-Electron, Negative
Particle (mass ~ 2.0 to 2.7 elecderived from the Positronium Anion (Ps-)
being pursued by the
"establishment" is on trial. 

http://www.mpi-hd.mpg.de/ato/psminus/

"Introduction"

"The study of simple systems has been of particular interest since the very
first days of physics. Simple systems, consisting of just a few particles
do not show the puzzling variety of phenomena known from solid state
physics, for example. But they offer invaluable insights into the the
properties of particles and fundamental forces. To gain a first
understanding of atomic physics it is a much more promising approach to
study hydrogen instead of complex molecules, for instance. 

The object of our studies is one of these simple systems: the Positronium
negative ion. This exotic entity is a bound state of a positron and two
electrons. It is similar to the negative ion of hydrogen (H-). In fact, it
is the most simple three body problem imaginable. Its constituents are
pointlike particles (at least to the best of our knowledge) and there are
no pertubations due to strong interactions to be considered. There has been
quite a lot of theoretical activity around Ps- but there is not much known
experimentally. Only one experiment can be found in the literature: A.P.
Mills observed the Positronium negative ion experimentally and made a first
lifetime measurement. With an error of about 4% it is not sufficiently
precise to allow for a test a QED effects. A new measurement of the
lifetime with improved precision is the first objective of this project. 
We have a 22Na source (on the left) emitting positrons at 0.55 MeV. A
tungsten foil moderates the positrons to thermic velocities (about 30 eV).
The slow positrons enter the field of an S-shaped solenoid which leads them
into the experiment chamber (on the right). 

The ß+ decay of 22Na leads to a excited 22Ne nucleus, which decays further
by ? emission at 1.27 MeV. To remove these photons from the background the
solenoid shifts the positron beam out of the gamma beam. 

In the experimental chamber the positrons pass through a grounded copper
grid and get accellerated onto a thin carbon foil. This foil is just a few
atomic layers thick. In the Carbon foil most of the positrons capture one
electron and form the electrically neutral Positronium. Very rarely a
positron captures two electrons and forms the negative charged Ps-. 

A second grid after the carbon foil is on high voltage (about 4kV) and
accellerates the Ps- ions. This Doppler-shifts the decay-?s to higher
energies in forward direction, while the energy of the ?s from the neutral
Positronium remains at 511 keV. 

To measure the spectra a Germanium detector at the temperature of liquid
nitrogen detects the ? radiation from the decays of the positronium and
positronium ion."                                                               
                                

http://www.newsroom.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/display.cgi?id=1186

(October 31, 2005)

"RIVERSIDE, Calif. – What happens when two atoms, each made up of an
electron and its antimatter counterpart, called the positron, collide with
each other? UC Riverside physicists are able to see for the first time in
the laboratory that these atoms, which are called positronium atoms and are
unstable by nature, become even more unstable after the collision. The
positronium atoms are seen to destroy one another, turning into gamma
radiation, a powerful type of electromagnetic radiation. 

“Our research also gives the first hint of the presence of double
positronium molecules, each of which is made up of two electrons and two
positrons,” said Allen Mills, professor of physics and leader of the
research project. “This kind of matter-antimatter pairing has never been
formed or studied in the laboratory until now, and paves the way for a new
field of study on its properties.” "

I'm not into rewriting accepted physics, but I'm not above looking
for a particle that most likely exists (since time zero) and has been
overlooked in the shuffle.

IOW, for every postron-electron pair produced, obviously near many electrons
there could be a major fraction that form the stable Triad "Electronium". 
Thus Electron-Positron Annihilation Radiation could mask the existence of
the bound Triad
that except for it's mass, radius and nuclear magnetic moment looks like
any other electron.
It cannot be detected by electrotatic CRTs but can be detected using a
magnetic mass spectrometer
type device. Ther modified scope experiment was a rough cut mass attempt,
with the thought
that one might shake out a few if they come off the emitter in CRT.
The researchers in the above links and others have been made aware of this
possibility, but, you or me 
won't be hearing from them while they are feverishly shooting for a free
trip to Stockholm.

Fred
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> >  Regards, --Kyle
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