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From: "OrionWorks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Vo]: OT: Buzz Aldrin comes clean
---- Terry Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 7/24/06, Steven wrote:
> As convincing as the trailer and footage appears to be I suspect
> nothing of any great significance will come of it. I've come to the
> conclusion that too many of our planet's population simply aren't ready
> to face the implications. The testimony and accumulated "evidence" will
> continue to be meticulously ignored.
Yes, but we are approaching a cusp. If the Chinese aren't a part of
the cosmo club and those stories of airbrushing are true; then, they
are soon to let the cat out of the bag (unless it's dinner) when they
visit the moon.
Disclosure is inevitable. The question is when. I have been a true
believer for 4 decades and used to be sure it would happen in my
lifetime. Now I'm not so sure. One story is that "they" have told
the governments they have a timetable for disclosure or "they" will do
the proverbial landing on the White House lawn.
Wouldn't you love to see THAT on CNN! :-)
Terry
I have to admit that I belong pretty much in the same camp. In my youth I
was much more impatient and radical in my desire to see some form of a
public disclosure unfold, as if I feared the event would finally happen
after I died and I would miss out on all the fun.
I'm now 53 years old, going on 54 next month. I realize my age still makes
me a young pup by the standards of others who post in this group. There
are others older and far wiser than I.
The question I keep asking myself is will a "disclosure" happen overnight
or will the process actually turn out to be a gradual transformation, one
that when the historians look back took decades to slowly manifest through
the collective minds of the planetary population.
The proverbial "landing on the White House" is, IMHO, an extremely
unlikely scenario. Least of all, it would snub all the other governmental
institutions - WHY didn't THEY land on OUR front lawn! The NERVE of them!
Harrumph! Ok, then, so why don’t "they" land on every government front
lawn simultaneously so as not to snub the rest of the government
institutions. But then you have to deal with the appearance of what would
look to many like a planned invasion. Ok, then, snub all the governments
and why not land in some remote region like the upper plateaus in Tibet.
But such an action would look to some like "they" are behaving in sneaky
remote ways. Some would complain: Why are they being so secretive!!!!
There just ain't no easy to way to introduce yourselves! ;-)
IMHO, under the circumstances the only scenario I've been able to come up
with that seems the safest avenue to follow is to just flit about at safe
and hopefully non-threatening distances and occasionally wave through the
portholes - and hope enough of us will look up long enough from the
occasionally grisly scripts we have been playing out amongst ourselves -
just long enough to notice. It sounds like Buzz and Neil did just that on
their way to the moon. That took courage. Good for them!
Some in this group will misconstrue my above mentioned scenario as
assuming I believe that, collectively speaking, they must all be friendly,
that they are here to serve and/or save us, when it seems so obvious to
them that "their" real "intentions" are to serve us up on a dinner
platter. IMHO, we really don't know what their "intentions" are. Maybe
there isn't just one "intention". Perhaps there are as many "intentions"
as there are stars shining in the universe. But we will never know, not
until we can open up a public dialog with "them."
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Steve has made some good points. Not to drag this thread too far, consider
the following:
1) If you suspend automatic rejection and disinformation, there is ample
evidence that visitors have been around for centuries and their craft have
been seen and there may have been encounters of the third kind.
2) Any civilization that can get spacecraft here has an inherent capability
that we do not understand, else there would not be the continued
*disinformative explanations*. That doesn't make the visitors smarter: for
example the European seamen did not build their ships or make their weapons.
The visitors may have a few hundred years head start -- that's all it would
take. Or they did not waste their energy in stupid wars like humans do.
3) If they have observed us, cutivating disclosure may be an old game, as in
"Star Trek". Actually, the craft have been seen all over the earth and
studiously ignored. The proper strategy may be one we don't understand. Carl
Sagan in "Contact" had an interesting scenario.
4) As Greer has pointed out, formal disclosure and acknowledgement of
humankind as sub-class [xenopobic, fratricidal, scientifically provincial]
could have sprialling consequences for our attitudes and our economy. If you
were an offical, would you want that on your watch?
5) "They" may be many, and for all I know, Earth may be a tourist stop.
Taking out all our satellite capability could be short work if we needed
spanking.
6) Oneof the most stupid things for humans to do would be an attempted
military challenge. Let us hope coold heads prevail.
7) It has also possible that contact has been ongoing and very discreet, as
in 4) above. It may also be possible that the energy and propulsion
techology is extremely dangerous unless completely understood, much too
dangerous for our present civilization.
Mike Carrell
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